She is without a doubt more evil. In this particular situation though, I don't see it as an "omg so evil" moment. Though the High Sparrow was pretty bad himself.
I forget why I thought this last night but the preview ended and I thought that Dany is definitely attacking Jaime with the dragons, probably on the way to the Rock.
So this was infinitely better than last weeks episode and highly enjoyable. It's so exciting to see everything moving so quickly and all the plot threads converging. I really enjoyed how much they condensed into the last 10 minutes. My big theory from the episode is that Varys has betrayed Daenerys or is at least going to be suspected of it. She claimed she'd kill him if he ever betrayed her and Melisandre made the comment that Varys was going to die there. With the Lannister's being one step ahead on everything thus far, I'd be pointing my finger at him (I don't want to say he betrayed her with certainty as Jamie explained how they came up with the plan based on what Rob did to him, but you never know).
The world is freaking out over Jon/Dany finally meeting and I'm just excited that we get more Jon and Tyrion banter
Loved this episode, favourite of the season so far, felt like some great dialogue and interactions happened that really start to unfold everything moving forward. Can't wait for the imgur album of this episode.
Certainly seems not too far fetched. I would be so sad if she blames Tyrion for these losses and punishes him for it...only to find out it wasn't his fault.
I think he's smarter than that....I wouldn't be shocked at all if he tries to put it in her head that this was Varys' doing, to save his own hide.
Jaime and Cersei were one step ahead of Tyrion, for sure, but I blame the entire group for being so overconfident. Even though they were just going back to Dorne, you probably shouldn't put Ellaria, all three sand snakes, and both Greyjoys on the same boat (when they were already on the run from Euron). Also, if your plan is to starve out King's Landing, you probably shouldn't leave Highgarden completely unprotected since they don't have an army to begin with. I don't know, maybe I'm oversimplifying, but they all seemed way too confident that Cersei was helpless. "I have THREE dragons and an army! I need help from YOU?!"
I wonder if Varys still tries to use his little birds. That would explain how Cersei knows what they have planned
I like to think part of leaving High Garden unprotected was assuming that the Tarlys, one of your houses, would not betray you.
I actually think that Dany needs Jon more for his knowledge of battle than she needs his men to supplement her army. Maybe that is what forges their alliance. Since coming to Westeros, she has taken two big losses, being completely outsmarted by the Lannisters. Look who is on her war council. No Jorah, not Dario, no Barristan. Tyrion is smart, but not as smart as he thinks he is when it comes to battle. The only other person who maybe has some real knowledge of planning a battle—Yara—has been taken prisoner. Olenna knows how to politick, but her house are not great warriors (and now they're all largely dead). Varys doesn't strike me as a military mind. Grey Worm, the Unsullied, and the Dothraki are fierce fighters but know nothing about Westeros. Though Jon is maybe not a great military mind like Robb was, he's still better suited to advise her on strategy than anyone else in her council currently.
The siege being narrated by Tyrion was awesome, very well done. Olenna was savage until the end, what a way to go. Masterful use of the Rains of Castamere theme there in the end.
Also yeah that scene in the dungeon was absolutely visceral. That second when Tyene's gag is removed and she shouts "Momma!" right after Cersei poisons her....good lord Also also the look on Jorah's face when he realized he could experience human touch again
That is true and definitely the case, but I just meant that overall, their whole plan involved no defensive tactics. They were too concerned with stomping everyone.
Actually, that doesn't make sense. Why did they take so many men? They could've easily kept the Rock and taken Highgarden. The Tyrell's are not fighters and they are massively outnumbered.
I dunno. How much of the Lannister forces is split up between the Rock, Kingslanding, which is almost a must, Highgarden and how much of the forces at Highgarden was made of Tarlys? Also wasn't Sheeran and Lannister soldiers headed somewhere?
I think Mel's comment was referring to what Varys saw in the flames, same as the other red priestess in Mereen. i think it just means they both die somewhere in Westeros, i.e. not their home, not Dragonstone specifically. Ed was heading up to investigate what happened at the Twins. anyone else surprised to see Jaime stann(is)ing so hard for cersei this episode? he's seemed to be kind of on the edge with her since he got back to the capital, but now is fully backing her plans.
Can't wait for the Sansa/Arya reunion. Poor Sansa. Sansa: "Who are you?" Bran: "I'm the Three-Eyed Raven." Sansa: "Who are you?" Arya: "I'm no one." Sansa: "What the fuck is going on?"
I actually think he's more up in the air on her after this episode. He's supporting her but has his hesitations. Evidenced by reluctantly going to bed with her and that final scene with Olenna. I think her line about Cersei will stick with him... "She's a disease, I regret my role in spreading it; you will too."
Anyone think maybe Arya didn't turn around and head to Winterfell, but instead continued towards King's Landing?