he did have a plan though which was a gamble, the big problem was that he let ramsay's manipulation of his emotions with rickon get to him. the plan was to not charge first as to not get rounded up from two sides. it was dumb of him to not take sansa's warnings of ramsay seriously but her plan was "just let rickon die because that cause is lost", and did anyone expect jon to just stay still when faced with his brother?
i think sansa knew the vale forces were nearby and would answer to her call but when she spoke to jon she was still conflicted about asking for littlefinger's help.
We didn't. But we also "know" he wouldn't abandon Sansa. My thought on why Sansa didn't straight up tell Jon is because she was still doubting herself a bit. She's playing the game now, but on still stabilizing feet. She tried to get Jon to delay, but like was just said above: we know Jon wasn't going to delay any attempt at saving Rickon.
No we didn't. but Sansa should've been further north from the battle so I'm not sure how Littlefinger gets her
I'm so glad Wun Wun stuck it out long enough to break the gate down. His job was done after that anyhow. Sucks they're out of giants now though.
The giant had to go eventually. As long as he was alive, I knew for the most part that everything would be okay.
You guys watched the preview for the finale, right? It SEEMS as if Little Finger wants to marry Sansa so he can become I guess Warden of the North? How would that work exactly? The husband of the last rightful child of Ned Stark would take power, and then her husband would trump Jon, unless Jon is named as a Stark by Sansa with the approval from Tommen? But then again no way the Lannisters would allow a Stark to take power in the North.
How is she NOT? First she said she still feels what he did inside of her (double meaning I know). Now Ramsay saying his legacy (or however he worded it) will never die. The hints are a bit heavy handed. By the way, my DVR completely crashed and restarted right when Jon was about to be run down by the Boltons on horseback. I had my 6 month old asleep on me so I couldn't get up and restart my DVR, was so pissed for like 10 minutes.
So what happens with Yara/Dany/Euron? Are they waiting for Euron to threaten/intimidate him in a similar fashion as the Masters? I mean, at this point it seems all too easy for Dany to get to Westeros and have her dragons burn everything and kill everyone; there is literally nothing anyone can do to kill the dragons. I guess what I'm saying is I think Dany will probably be out of the running for the Iron Throne, it seems just way too easy, unless there is some magical ancient anti-dragon weapon we haven't seen yet.
I was going to say something about abortion but I didn't want to get ragged on, considering where I am.
I'm glad it happened, but I find it funny that in two separate battles, we had the literal cavalry rolling in just at the right moment to save the day and fuck shit up. I still think when Tywin and the Knight of Flowers (forgot his name) showed up was far more epic than the Knights of The Vale.
I'd like to see what can be used to take down the dragons when they're spitting fire at everyone. There are trebuchets and a shit ton of arrows, but that doesn't seem like it will cut it.
Two of them were quite easily kept locked up underground for the past few seasons. They may be the strongest creatures in the world but, again, they're not indestructible
Was there anything in any of the books mentioning how the old Dragons died? Were they all killed or did they just die off similar to the dinosaurs or something like that?
At this point, the north was only loyal to the crown because the Boltons were loyal to the crown. With Starks back in power, the north technically could be considered independent again, meaning they could crown their own king. I'm not sure if they could fully legitimize Jon, but the leaders of the smaller northern houses could easily proclaim Jon to be King In The North. Especially if Bran were to show up and be like "Yo hes a Tarstarkyen"
Having Jon king of the North is all well and good, but then what? His journey stops at that point, at least until the Walkers break through the Wall.
I was expecting at least one if not both of Davos and Tormund to die. Mel atoning for Shireen should be good, but I will be disappointed if that's the end of her.