This warmed and broke my heart at the same time. Scott’s death has been particularly hard to take, and I think part of the reason is it feels so unjust that someone who helped so many people through their struggles fell victim to his own.
I really can't either. I've been on vacation but I go back to work today. I work in the mental health field with actively suicidal people. I've been talking about this a lot with one of my coworkers in particular.
Not being morbid here, but I wonder if this will increase their popularity. There are certainly a lot of people in the world who need to hear his words as we could all attest to.
I think so. I think a lot of people who knew of them (myself included) but never really invested real time to their entire discography will go back and give them an honest and sincere listen due to this. It's sad this was what really motivated me to get into them as I've always told myself, "hey check that band out more cause the songs you know are awesome" but never got around to it until last week. The only good thing about this is his words, ideas, and emotion will live on and these songs will be heard by more and more.
It’s another rainy, stormy day here in Michigan and so I felt like listening to the Owl John record again this morning. The closing lyrics to “A Good Reason to Grow Old” hit me so hard. Had to sit and cry for a moment before heading in to work. “With my head in my hands, I resolved to die alone Now I've finally found a good reason to grow old I was ready to drown in the afterlife Not anymore That I've finally found a good reason to grow old Good reason to... Ohhhhh How she murders morbid thought Ohhhhh Plunges a knife into the suicide in my life Ohhhhh How she murders morbid thought Ohhhhh Plunges a knife into the suicide that I've borne Turn your back to the afterlife Kick dust into the eyes of them all Turn your back to the afterlife Climb out of your shallow hole” It’s been said many times over the last few days, but I hope you all are okay. Keep fighting. His words resonate more than ever.
This is the same as me. I started listening when they were announced for 2000 Trees festival, and quite liked them. This made me truly go into their discography and I really enjoy their music.
Any advice for coping and making it hurt less? Listening to the music seems to be helping but I don't know if it's just making me focus on it more. I do know I will be telling everyone to listen to Frabbit and I do find comfort in knowing Scott will continue to live through his music.
For myself, and I think this is only temporary, it's a little too raw for me to listen to their music right now. It's so intense and emotional, and so many of their lyrics are so direct that for me it's too much right now. I know I'll listen to all of their stuff again soon. I'll probably start off by checking out the Mastersystem album which I just haven't had a chance to yet. My best advice for a way to cope is to talk to someone about what you're feeling and going though no matter what. Don't ever hold it in. As far as hurting less I think that just has to come with time.
My younger brother is getting married in a few weeks. His best friend’s father is going to be in the wedding with us. His friend isn’t in the wedding because two years ago he hung himself from a tree in the front yard of his apartment. I’ve been working on my speech, trying to come up with a way to talk about his best friend without bringing what is usually kind of a light-hearted, semi-embarrassing roast type speech down too much. He was obviously a huge part of most everyone’s lives who are going to be there celebrating, and I want to talk about him, but I am not the most comfortable speaking in public and it’s a subject that I don’t have any trouble admitting I have difficulty speaking about and navigating in public, nevermind processing my own feelings and emotions about. One of the really hard things about having someone close to you do this is you question if I you had done more, if you had said this or that, maybe things wouldn’t have happened this way. One of the even harder things to deal with is knowing that no matter what you do and how much you reach out sometimes it just is not enough. It’s an absolutely devastating disease. When I first read that thing on The Onion about Scott Hutchison I thought maybe I was missing something. I thought maybe I didn’t get what they were going for. I can only imagine that, to make that kind of joke about a person like Scott right now when his family and loved ones are going through what they are going through, you must not have had something like this shatter your life. You make that joke or find it funny, and you’re probably not actively searching every fiber of your being for the strength to pick up the pieces and keep going forward, wondering if happiness is a thing you’ll feel again at some point. Ultimately I don’t think I’m the one who is missing something.
I don't think there's even anything to get. I'm honestly fucking dumbfounded that somebody even brought that idea up let alone had it APPROVED. Tasteless garbage.
Isn't the point of it (extraordinarily badly executed) that they're not making a joke about it? There's no jokes in the "responses", it's expressing that they're sad about his passing in a stupid way, with sentiments that others have said here; ("This band helped me through my own low points", "I'm really shook up by this, I can't think of what to say" & "More people may listen to their music and find the same joy that we find". There's no mockery of him or his death there, just a shitty idea for a piece. Spelling his name wrong in the tweet is very poor though.
I get what you're saying and you're probably right but it's just so odd. I've never seen the Onion do anything like it.
Yeah it is odd - and it doesn't fit The Onion, and they probably shouldn't have bothered. I don't think it's malicious or mean-spirited, but I can definitely see how it's very easy to see an Onion article about Scott and think the worst.
It reads to me like a joke mocking peoples' heartfelt expressions of grief and appreciation of the human being on Twitter and Instagram and the likes. The crack about knowing an indie Scottish band who could've helped him through his grief is mocking and shitting on what he has done for countless people with his music. The 'quote' about hoping this sad episode leads to a public conversation about their discography is mocking people expressing the very real need for us all to talk about and address and hopefully change how we deal with mental illness. They made a shitty joke at a bad time. At least have the fucking balls and integrity to say you made a shitty joke. They do fake quotes from made-up people with silly descirptions like 'Glass Emptier' that are supposed to be funny. I definitely think it is malicious and mean-spirited.
Nothing is off limits when it comes to humor. There's a time and a place for everything when it comes to myself personally telling offensive jokes, but it's all fair game as far as I'm concerned in general.