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Foo Fighters - But Here We Are (June 2nd, 2023) • Page 30

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by xburningcoffin, Apr 19, 2023.

  1. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    If you don't want to be in a monogamous relationship, don't be in a monogamous relationship. I kind of think it's that simple? Like, what bothers me isn't that these famous dudes want to sleep around, it's that they do it after committing to and building lives with their partners. Sure, "biological makeup" and all, but it is a very conscious choice to betray someone you presumably love on that level.
     
  2. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    I don't think it's "holier than thou" to be upset about a rockstar cheating on their wife when he's tried to present himself as a good, upstanding dude who really values family. I also don't think it's "deifying" Dave Grohl to hold him to the same standards I'd hold anyone else I respect. Is that parasocial? I guess so> But we also let these musicians and their art into our lives in often profound ways, so I don't think it's weird at all to be upset when they do shitty things, even if those shitty things don't rise to the level of "cancellable offense."
     
  3. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    he is a guy who got divorced from one wife for cheating and whose biggest song is about a partner that he famously left bc he cheated on her with a famous actress. no one should really be surprised by this/if you expected more from him because a persona he crafted, idk, i’m sorry you got fooled i guess

    not excusing it. he very clearly seems to be at best a bad partner. but a lot of posts and tweets about how nice of a guy he seemed or expecting better from him seem a bit misguided.
     
  4. flask

    Trusted Supporter

    Dave Grohl cheated on his wife and it’s led to arguments about racism. Everyone just go home early today.
     
  5. Cameron

    FKA nowFace Prestigious

    Wait what song are you referring to?
     
  6. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    everlong
     
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  7. daldalian

    this is all there is

    My guess is because it's way more of a scandal if he tried to hide it. Completely guessing and not justifying it at all, but from his perspective, at least if he is the one to announce it, he doesn't have to feel constantly under the fear of everyone finding out.
     
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  8. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    I actually knew nothing about his first marriage or how/why it ended. That’s also a bummer!
     
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  9. atticusfinch

    Together We'll Fight the Long Defeat Supporter

    This was my feel when I saw it. Like, ok, major character flaw, but this isn’t burn it down like we did with Jesse Lacey and dozens of others legitimately horrific monsters. People cheat, it fucking sucks. Just don’t have parasocial relationships with famous people or anyone really.
     
  10. exanctile

    Fight the long defeat.

    Not to stir the pot too much here, but failure to adhere to a standard doesn't debunk the standard itself. And, more to the point, it's the violation of promised fidelity that's disappointing and wrong, the brunt of which Dave's family must now bear. Whether any of us have also made that mistake or still strive to avoid it, it's valid to express sadness and/or anger: likely the very reaction we'd kindle within ourselves, should we ever be in Dave's shoes.

    Of course, separating art from artist is messy at best, but I think we'd like to believe the voices to which we choose to listen represent some prism of the good, true, and beautiful to which we can aspire in our lives. Situations like this diminish that possibility.
     
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  11. Of course we shouldn't put artists on pedestals, but I think it's equally silly to pretend like we can't admire artists and hope for them to be decent people
     
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  12. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    Is "hoping someone won't cheat on their wife" really putting them on a pedestal? That seems like an extremely low bar. I'd have that expectation for most humans.
     
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  13. Jason

    Regular

    I hope the rumors of the identity of the girl he got pregnant aren't true.
     
  14. Ricky's Law Sep 11, 2024
    (Last edited: Sep 11, 2024)
    Ricky's Law

    This is a damn fine cup of coffee.

    What's the source on his first marriage ending because of infidelity? I keep seeing this claim being stated with no real sourcing.
     
  15. cricketandclover

    Things have changed.

  16. popdisaster00

    Moderator Moderator

    Now people are saying he was in an open marriage.
     
  17. Gnarly Charlie

    Good guy, but a bad dude

    ?
     
  18. Jason

    Regular

    19 yr old friend of his daughter. She disabled her social media right before the announcement. Allegedly threatened to go public if he didn't acknowledge the kid.
     
  19. JRGComedy

    Trusted Supporter

    Ew
     
  20. Where are you seeing this?
     
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  21. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

     
  22. DooDooBird

    Trusted

  23. fredwordsmith

    Trusted Supporter

    Man.

    That would be…insanely gross, if true. Gross enough for me to put away my Foo records for a bit.
     
  24. Jason Sep 11, 2024
    (Last edited: Sep 11, 2024)
    Jason

    Regular

    Another forum that I follow. Poster said it was being spread online somewhere. Again, this is all alleged.

    I don't know the name of the girl and wouldn't post it if I did, but it wasn't some random bot account saying this about her.

    Xana La Fuente is the one who said the woman gave him an ultimatum in terms of announcing it. Not sure if anyone here knows who she is, but she's apparently pretty popular in the Seattle grunge scene.
     
  25. DooDooBird

    Trusted

    We all know reddit rumors are always true.
     
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