I remember liking their 2009 album well enough, but when Arrows debuted I could tell they were onto something special
I don’t think Arrows was the lead single, it was Summer. That’s the one they were playing live before the album came out when they were direct support for TWY. I remember being all in on pop punk, and they had some interviews going around (ap.net?) talking about how they were shedding their pop punk sound. I remember being initially disappointed by that interview but I loved Summer. Seemed like everyone else did too, at least in my corner of the world.
I had never heard of them when I randomly saw them play a show with Broadway Calls in 2008. I was enamored with their set and picked up We are Everywhere. Absolutely loved that EP and was super stoked when they signed to Triple Crown. Everything they’ve ever release has been fire and they never played it safe. I’m excited to get new music from them, but I’m still not getting too excited about seeing them live again. I could see them touring pretty sparsely and sticking to mostly the Midwest/East Coast, but I hope I’m wrong.
This was it for me. Check out their debut because Chad from NFG produced and they were support on a tour. Wrote them off a bit other than a few songs because it sounded generic to me. Bonfires on are some great stuff.
Thanks for the correction, did not realize that. I figured it was Arrows since Arrows had the music video.
Became a huge fan during AIHTOIMOC but Bonfires is when you could tell they were going to be something special. Then Gospel confirmed it.
I was the same way. I liked the debut but nothing really stuck out. Bonfires made me like the band, and Gospel made me love the band. I have a Gospel tattoo now lol
Same. I liked but didn't quite love their earlier stuff. I think it all finally clicked when "I Grew Up In A Legion Hall" premiered on ap.net prior to the EP release.
Listened to Gospel for the first time in years today. I forgot how much I love The Wild Bunch. One of my all-time favorite songs.
what is a post like this trying to accomplish? can't people just talk about how stoked they are that the band is back instead of making the conversation negative. it's one song released back in 2009 that is pretty tame compared what many other bands in the scene were doing.
This song was released 13 years ago… give these guys a break. Agreed! The band also had a track called “I support same sex marriage” on said album. Maybe we can celebrate that instead of being negative?
I used to feel that way, but now I’m neither here nor there. Not everyone is going to look back on losing a close friend or relative to anxiety and depression with only sorrow and I think it would be unproductive to tell people how they’re supposed to feel in retrospect. Feeling anger is valid. When someone dies a sudden death, people close to the victim often look for something to blame as a method of coping. I also think that if a person is more closely connected to a friend of the victim than the victim and has to watch their close relationships grapple with grief, they may be more inclined to blame the victim. Based on the liner notes, it doesn't sound like Chris (I'm assuming he wrote it) didn't have a good relationship with this person before they took their life, so he probably had even less incentive to feel pity afterward. If this was a song claiming all victims of suicide are selfish or cowards or didn’t try hard enough, I would not give the song any leeway, but this is about a relationship with a single person and their relationships. Also, viewing this within context (pop punk scene circa 2007 - 2010), there isn't any obvious precedent (that comes to mind) for someone to reconsider this kind of position - especially not suburban white boys in their early 20s.
I don’t know anything about the person the song is about. I’m mostly referring to the last line of the song, “Heroes don't die by their own rope in their own homes.” That has always read to me like a generic statement on suicide, not the one specific situation the rest of the song is about.
He was very young when he wrote this. To me it reads as “you shouldn’t commit suicide cause you have so much to accomplish if you don’t” sorta thing.