Calling it transitional is accurate, I think this and FAD was the most ambitious they could get about certain things like genre experiments without being SRAR
I like a few songs from TTTYG but I'll never understand how it is considered one of the best pop punk albums of its era. Never. Allister, The Starting Line, Autopilot Off, and well, even Yellowcard (though I don't think Ocean Avenue is that great of an album compared to their later albums) have released way way way better albums at the same time.
@Jason Tate I may be totally misremembering this but I believe around the time of AB/AP coming out there were some complaints about the album being 11 songs and you said something about how you wouldn't expect bands to release anything longer than that anymore. Since then, streaming has changed things substantially and people are regularly releasing extremely long albums. I was just wondering your thoughts on this and if you'd expect bands like FOB to change again with the times and pump out albums that are 14+ tracks long again? (Thought came to mind when I remembered IOH is 14 tracks)
I think some bands will, but I don't see it all that often these days -- 10 to 12 seems pretty standard. I don't really see Fall Out Boy doing it. But, I dunno.
The TTTYG hate is killin me IOH is lower on the list for me, I still like it but stuff like I've Got All This Ringing I'm kinda ehhhhh about. Although I recently discovered how much I REALLY dig Fame < Infamy.
Yeah, but that's the dating I like. That just-this-side-of-glossy sound with a wall of guitars. Riot! by paramore has the same thing going on. TTTYG has that Tell All Your Friends thing going on where it's kind of just painful.
I literally can't listen to it. That high pitched signal that come in every time Adam sings makes me want to tear my hair out.
I mean, TTTYG is turning 14 this year so I'd expect it to sound outdated. Also not their worst release by any means.
Evening Out and AB/AP for me! I got into FOB a little before Infinity on High dropped so I had the first three albums in heavy rotation and loved every release aside from AB/AP. It just didn't click with me. Hated most of it but then saw them play some songs live on that Wiz Khalifa tour and liked a couple after that. Too many songs were played to death and some are downright awful. Curious to see where they go with this new album.
TTTYG will forever be my favorite, and it's a bummer that so many people have turned on it due to growing up or growing out of it. I truly think that the arrangements of those songs are the best of their career. I find those songs to be the most dynamic and exciting. Especially in the last couple albums where Andy has essentially become a session drummer and the songs themselves don't seem to go as many places.
I never thought TTTYG was good. I just think it's a boring pop punk album. Even the songs I don't really like on the last two albums are more interesting than anything on there.
TTTYG is just not interesting compared to everything they did after. They've written and arranged much better songs at quantity, even with my rose tinted glasses on.