I think it has a weird flow and the last few songs do absolutely nothing for me. Some songs really hit good, but as an album, I always found it messy.
And they fucked up hard by cutting Pavlove, rearrange the tracklist and throw that in, shuffle some things around and you got a stew going. Disloyal Order into I Don't Care is an insanely good opening pair. I know the latter's a little maligned these days but Andy's opening fill is exquisite.
Yea, it starts off pretty strong. I know people seem to be over I Don’t Care being in their sets, but it’s a banger.
i would say that west coast smoker is the only total dud for me sequencing-wise, it doesn't feel to me that they were massively intentional about that sort of thing until save rock and roll (bar the opening tracks). obvs just perception but i certainly don't feel that most of their albums have a particular flow
dunno how to articulate my thoughts on pavlove. i guess i would have to hear a version that feels finished to decide whether it should be on the album or not lol
It’s my favorite FOB album and has been since it came out. I remember being mad because it was supposed to come out Election Day 2008 and they pushed it to late December, which definitely didn’t help its chances. I also still remember the Welcome to the New Administration mixtape, which if I recall correctly, gave us our first (or second?) taste of Pretty. Odd. and was the origin of Nearly Witches. @Jason Tate What are your FAD memories?
In 2008, it took a while for Folie to grow on me. Honestly for me that year, The 59 Sound by The Gaslight Anthem overshadowed everything. I wanted more of that straight up Springsteen-punk sound, so by the time Folie came out, I was lukewarm toward it. When the band went on hiatus that gave me more time to sit with Folie and appreciate it more with each listen over time.
Mostly the roll out/election/execution stuff of it was sloppy but the push back had been brewing for a while, the music taste/industry was shifting an there was very clear FOB backlash/overexposure. And then 1:50 into this video is a vivid memory.
Yeah, there was a lot of hatred tossed their way around that time. When they opened for blink on the reunion tour, there was just a constant barrage of bottles being thrown at them at the date I was at. People really turned against them.
All I remember is people REALLY didn’t like Pete Wentz being the face of the band when he’s not the singer.
I remember in junior high when FUTCT came out being dumbfounded that Pete Wentz was the face of the band when he was (imo by a far region) the least talented member musically of the band. But he makes up for that by his report with the crowd and his lyrics and overall vision of the FOB aesthetic so now I appreciate him. Took a long time though. Wouldn't surprise me if Patrick played his bass parts in the studio. I feel like that was rumored at some point.
the year is 2065, I am in my 60s, and people are posting made things up about fall out boy in the AI meta verse
I dated a girl a couple hours away back when Folie came out. So when I'd drive to her house, I'd blast that CD often. I loved it. I haven't listened to it in full in probably 10+ years though.
Fall Out Boy - From Under the Cork Tree (20th Anniversary) - 3LP Super Deluxe Edition Sounds lots better
no shade but there are absolutely fall out boy songs on which pete did not play the bass parts... it's not some wild claim
Is there any proof of Pete not playing on some songs? Like, I don’t think it’s a huge deal if Patrick or Joe played some stuff if they came up with the part. But I have never heard anything to indicate Pete hasn’t played all the songs on the albums.
We know Patrick/Butch Walker recorded the bass part on Church because there’s a video of it. Pete played root notes the few times they performed the song live while the guitar simulated the part. I can assume he didn’t record the bass for Where Did the Party Go for the same reason.