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pretty sure everyone who's assigning blame is blaming the NRA, which exists independently of the president

 

He didn't make any drastic change, no, but one of the main criticisms of Trump's administration in all of this is that he recently repealed an Obama-era rule that made it harder for mentally ill people to get a gun.

Also, don't say "I don't get into politics or anything" right before getting into politics.

 

He’s also under scrutiny for not pushing to do anything now.

 

I guess I should have said I don't know much about politics

And I'm not on any side

 

Obama made a push for stricter gun regulations. died in republican controlled congress.

obama also made a few executive orders for certain things, at least one of which trump got rid of, which made it easier for people that shouldn't have guns to get guns.

Could Obama have done more? yes.

Trump is president now, he has the current opportunity to do something. He wont, in fact, he's actively making it worse.

 

Hmm yeah if guns aren't the problem then why is America the only country in the world that has the 2nd amendment (right to bear arms) and is also the only country in the world to have this frequency of mass shootings? Correlation or coincidence?

 

Totally a coincidence; there's no way to prevent this.

 

I assume the poster was Australian who said 'case closed' in regards to if you just do what Australia did, it'll work. I don't believe America can pass anything as sweeping and successful as Australia did, because there are people who hold view points that weren't held in Australia when they passed their law. I then outlined those beliefs while trying to make it clear they weren't mine, hence the incorrect usage of the term devils advocate. (as in, here's the other side you aren't thinking of when you raise your hands in the air and say 'GUYS! JUST DO THIS! SOOOOOO SIMPLE, I DON'T GET WHY WE'RE NOT DOING IT!). Sorry, it was a poor phrase to use, when all I was trying to say was, I agree with you but here's why these things aren't happening. And yes, I am aware you are annoyed because you knew all those arguments, but you are all wise and all knowing, and perhaps should work on your tolerance levels for those that only know some things.

You're also wonderful at picking and choosing only the words in peoples posts that you can angrily rant about but I can tell you enjoy the feeling of your blood pressure rising and the feeling of a good snarky post coming on, so I won't try to curb that. It's all about enjoying the little things in life.

 

Am i doing it right?

 

No, you're not supposed to post a tweet of what you're doing in multiple threads now. Try again.

 

I would prefer not to derail a thread about children dying any further so I'll decline your offer to try again.

My thoughts on the topic at hand succinctly are that we need restrictions on weapons but I recognize the unfortunate believes of many Americans and the language of the constitution that are prohibitive to getting that done. For any foreigner who thinks its as simple as do what they did in their own country, I advise they read the accounts of 2nd amendment loving Americans, opposing any and all change and recognize, that while it's a minority, there are enough of them to make noise (you're correct that there's no need for a devils advocate, the devil is out there and can be found with research). I applaud efforts like this post to change who we elect until the elected political opinion is line with the majority of Americans and then we can enact serious life saving changes. We will never change the constitution and enact a policy that takes guns completely out of the hands of civilians but we can do better.

Jason, hit me with a wint tweet.

 

I really should stay off social media for a bit.

The amount of “it’s not the guns fault when a black person gets shot by a cop”, “we should ban cars too then”, and “you think it’s a gun issue with the same generation that eats tide pods” I have seen is literally astonishing.

 

Get ready to copy and paste!

1) The issue of police violence is an inherently different discussion than the violence perpetrated by civilians. The issue with the former is the racist institutions propped up by the state to oppress minority groups. The issue with the latter is easy access to military grade firearms. Confating two things that share a common feature (in this case a gun) is disingenuous.

2) Cars are heavily regulated! You have to be above a certain age to drive one, you are required to spend x amount of hours with a licensed driver, and you have to pass a state issued test. On top of that, each and every thing you do with your car is regulated by law. How fast you can drive, when you can change lanes, etc. You also have to register your car with the state and pass the test again at various yearly intervals. Also, cars that are too dangerous ARE banned from the road. Cars that are too fast aren’t allowed. Not only that, but technology is currently being used to make cars safer by including “smart” features. All of these safety measures are currently being fought by the gun lobby.

3) Eating tide pods is stupid. But you know what older generations did? They put asbestos in every home. They thought smoking cigarettes was good for their health. They picketed and shouted obscenities when black students were allowed to integrate with white students.

If we listen to the opinions of the generation who did the latter, we should definitely listen to the generation that did the former.

 

Was not expecting this, but you rule.

 

My point isn't whether or not America CAN adopt equivalent gun laws to Australia. My point is that America SHOULD be doing this because it is proven to work - once they are in place. Your arguments (that you don't actually believe in do you?) are not relevant to the actual effect of implementing these gun control laws.

 

I believe there are a large enough number of Americans that will resist meaningful change. and as long as they put politicians in power who think a similar way, or think they owe enough debt to their voter base, it'll always be an uphill battle. I do not believe in any civilian reason to own a gun and I will personally never own one and the day I feel like I need one for protection, I'll go through every possible life change I could make to avoid that scenario. The other reasons (hunting and protection against tyranny) are either immoral or laughable to me. But I honestly do believe (and maybe I'm just cynical) that a large enough portion of the population does not want any restriction or changes to their ability to access guns, I don't think it's a majority, but it's enough to make an impact.

I do live in the South though (not raised here, raised in England then New England then eventually Georgia) and I do read a lot of FoxNews comments spouting those opinions. Whether or not it's representative enough to make statements about America as a whole is another matter and I am happy to be proven wrong and support efforts to make that happen.

 

This mindset of even thinking of accessing a gun for personal protection is mind boggling to me. It's not even a thing in many countries. Now surely this mindset of not even thinking about guns makes the country more safe, not less safe.

Humans should not have to rely on owning a death weapon for their own safety. It makes no sense, it's a contradiction even.

 

That would be inferring right there.