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Eric Leaves Turnover for the “Foreseeable Future” • Page 3

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Melody Bot, Jun 21, 2017.

  1. Malatesta

    i may get better but we won't ever get well Prestigious

    these allegations have been around a while and he's only recently stepped away, followed by a short time and now this statement, don't think so
     
  2. Jason Tate Jun 22, 2017
    (Last edited: Jun 22, 2017)
    First, no one said they are in the "same category" categorically ... but just because you don't personally call emotional abuse, "abuse," doesn't mean it's not. The forms emotional abuse take, and their toll on people, and the psychological and mental health effects, are only recently coming more to light in the mainstream.

    Like, this is a real thing:

    http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2014/10/psychological-abuse.aspx
    Signs of Emotional Abuse | World of Psychology
    Abuse in Intimate Relationships
    Emotional abuse | womenshealth.gov
    Emotional Abuse Can Be As Damaging As Sexual Abuse

    At least read the first and last article. Because your statement here is not what the science says.

    The research, the studies, the experts are weighing in more and more all the time on this. The downplaying of emotional abuse only furthers the stigma. That's not good. The misrepresentation of emotional abuse only further clouds people's minds and turns them off to education on the topic.
     
  3. AshlandATeam

    Trusted

    Thanks for this.
     
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  4. justin.

    請叫我賴總統 Supporter

    Okay. I thought all of this happened within the last week. I still wouldn't claim that the band was up to something suspicious due to the wait of the announcement. Would a label interfere with something like this?
     
  5. Malatesta

    i may get better but we won't ever get well Prestigious

    i wouldn't say it's "suspicious," just endemic of band culture, particularly in male-heavy scenes like indie rock, for a band to mishandle this by sticking with a perpetrator for too long instead of kicking them out and publicly disowning it like they should. it sounds like they had a pretty good idea of what went on, and they even acknowledge that they protected him wrongly. it's possible a label would, not necessarily legally but with private pressure - again because of the problem of male-heavy scenes that like to figurehead bands and their members.
     
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  6. Thanks so much. We shouldn't be afraid to use the word "abuse" when you recognize the signs.
     
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  7. not to mention they're friends with harry corrigan, which is miraculously not a problem for some people on this site
     
  8. Malatesta

    i may get better but we won't ever get well Prestigious

    Oh that prick huh
     
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  9. Yeah, idk, that combined with the timing of the statement is fishy enough for me to pass on them, but I would never tell someone else what they should or shouldn't listen to.
     
  10. justin.

    請叫我賴總統 Supporter

    Who is Harry Corrigan? I'm assuming a musician or YouTuber.
     
  11. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious

  12. justin.

    請叫我賴總統 Supporter

  13. jorbjorb

    7 rings

    seems like they're really good friends with harry
     
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  14. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious

    well JJR (who's his uncle or cousin or something and has defended him) is still tour managing big name bands like FYS so...
     
  15. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious

    i don't know why you're using harry's post about an album here? turnover has said nothing publicly about him so who cares?
     
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  16. jorbjorb

    7 rings

    Ya I agree. They're pretty quiet that they're best bros with Harry.
     
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  17. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious

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  18. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Didn't feel comfortable in the thread, still surprised by the lack of consideration this is getting and just feel it's important to note. People can do whatever they want with that information.
     
  19. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious

    I'm just curious of your take on this since you've shown differing stances with acts you have personal attachment to
     
  20. Aaron Mook Jun 26, 2017
    (Last edited: Jun 26, 2017)
    I've said before that I think biases are okay to have as long as you recognize them, my take is to listen to what makes you happy and helps you to feel mentally/emotionally healthy.

    I don't have a problem with people listening to Turnover. I have a problem with people failing to recognize their own biases and getting personal with me when I bring up something that is genuinely questionable and worthy of a dialogue