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Finally saw Tahara last night. Not sure how many people here would enjoy it but I thought it was great. It did a great job capturing a very specific friendship dynamic in queer adolescence. The writing felt so grounded in the age of the characters instead of an adult projecting onto them

 

Excited for the sad Santeria cover

 

No thank you

 

Yes thank you

 

RIP Bradley

 

pleased to announce i will be starring as Lou Dog

 

There are 12 people who asked for that

 

you vastly underestimate that band’s popularity lol

with the right director it could be cool but i doubt this will be

 

unfortunately most of san diego will watch it

 

Saw a post about this on Reddit and a lot of the comments were saying how it’s risky to play a superhero character young in your career because there’s a high chance you may be typecast as only that type of role or only known as that character. Tom Holland’s name (and Mark Hamill’s) was brought up a bit in relation to this. What do you all think? Is playing a superhero or being in superhero movies bad for your career if you are a young actor?

 

playing a superhero at any age is bad

 

Getting trapped in a Disney/Marvel contract definitely sounds like it would be good on paper, but would potentially block you from doing other stuff due to scheduling conflicts and whatnot, I imagine.

 

It is always a bummer when a talented actor or director gets tied up with Disney/Marvel/Star Wars etc.

 

Nothing wrong with getting that Disney money and getting out if you can.

 

don't take my word for it

 

It's been said enough but the effects of Disney's increasing share of the entertainment landscape are bad for everything and I wish more actors were brave enough to tell them no

 

Two of the most talented young actors today came from the Twilight series, so it isn't impossible to climb out of these sorts of things.

I am usually sadder when it is someone who has a reputation for good work. Ryan Coogler's Creed was promising, but now he is a cog in the machine. Barry Jenkins is doing a Lion King prequel. Mark Ruffalo always brought an interesting dimension to his films but is now playing a green monster. In the early stages of his career comeback, Robert Downey Jr. was special until those paychecks started rolling in.

 

The landscape is so different from when Twilight came out. The demand Marvel and Disney put on an actor’s time is way more than Twilight would have been. To make it comparable to the MCU, they’d make those first Twilight films and then have to keep those characters going in a two part crossover with Harry Potter and maybe a TV series about Edward Cullen in the 1890s or something. Imagine if The Godfather came out in 2012 instead of 1972, would the next decade of Al Pacino’s career be a Disney/Marvel obligation, the way it largely was with Robert Downey Jr? And to be honest, outside of Chadwick Boseman and Benedict Cumberbatch, I can’t think of many actors or directors who have gone to Disney’s multimedia IP/franchises and done anything particularly interesting outside of it

 

Is there a "typical" Marvel contract in terms of how many movies/shows you are signed on for?

 

I don't know about "typical", but what I found googling turned up that Sebastian Stan signed a 9 movie deal in 2014. Anthony Mackie's was for 10. Mark Ruffalo signed a 6 movie contract that started with the 2012 Avengers movie. Apparently Paul Rudd said most of the (I assume Avengers) actors are on a 3 movie deal, but his is for more. They also seem to update the contracts semi-frequently based on their plans for the character.

 

It seems to depend on a case-by-case basis, but around 5-6 appearances seems pretty normal. I think Sebastian Stan's initial contract was for, like, 9 or something? Oscar Isaac managed to sign a contract for just one Moon Knight season, which I'm guessing was a requirement on his part after Star Wars and a bad X-Men movie. Not sure if other established actors in recent years have similarly demanded shorter commitments.

In an ideal world, people would be able to jump onto one superhero movie, maybe with an opportunity for a standalone trilogy with healthy gaps in between, and have fun with the genre without worrying about the Disney/Marvel machine.

 

I have only seen three of the movies, so I am not really an expert on the area, but who really "deserves" to break out? Is Tom Holland a promising actor?

Someone made the comparison to Mark Hamill earlier, and I think about that one a lot. How do you go from the biggest franchise of all time to being almost exclusively a voice actor? He didn't seem like that great of an actor, especially the weird way he tries to portray a wise Jedi in the third film.

 

When I saw Ewan McGregor at FanExpo a few weeks ago he said that when he got offered the part of Obi Wan, his uncle (Wedge Antilles in the originals) told him if he wanted a career after it don't take the part.

 

I mean, out of curiosity I looked at the IMDb pages for Robert Downey Jr., Scarlett Johansson, Mark Ruffalo, Elizabeth Olsen, and Benedict Cumberbatch. You can see in the mid-2010s where the MCU really starts eating up their time, plus streaming and the emergence of Disney/the pursuit of franchise IP "content" changes the kinds of movies that get made/released in theaters:

RDJ
2000 Wonder Boys
2005 Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
2005 Good Night, and Good Luck
2006 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints
2006 A Scanner Darkly
2007 Zodiac
2007 Charlie Bartlett
2008 Iron Man
2008 The Incredible Hulk
2008 Tropic Thunder
2009 The Soloist
2009 Sherlock Holmes
2010 Iron Man 2
2010 Due Date
2011 Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows
2012 The Avengers
2013 Iron Man 3
2014 Chef
2014 The Judge
2015 Avengers: Age of Ultron
2016 Captain America: Civil War
2017 Spider-Man: Homecoming
2018 Avengers: Infinity War
2019 Avengers: Endgame
2020 Doolittle
2023 Oppenheimer

Scarlett Johansson
2003 Lost in Translation
2003 Girl with a Pearl Earring
2004 The Perfect Score
2004 A Love Song for Bobby Long
2004 A Good Woman
2004 The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie
2004 In Good Company
2005 Match Point
2005 The Island
2006 Scoop
2006 The Black Dahlia
2006 The Prestige
2007 The Nanny Diaries
2008 The Other Boleyn Girl
2008 Vicky Cristina Barcelona
2008 The Spirit
2009 He’s Just Not That Into You
2010 Iron Man 2
2011 We Bought a Zoo
2012 The Avengers
2012 Hitchcock
2013 Don Jon
2013 Under the Skin
2013 Her
2014 Chef
2014 Captain America: The Winter Soldier
2014 Lucy
2015 Avengers: Age of Ultron
2016 Hail, Caesar!
2016 The Jungle Book
2016 Captain America: Civil War
2016 Sing
2017 Ghost in the Shell
2017 Rough Night
2018 Isle of Dogs
2018 Avengers: Infinity War
2019 Captain Marvel
2019 Avengers: Endgame
2019 Jojo Rabbit
2021 Black Widow
2021 Sing 2
2022 Asteroid City

Elizabeth Olsen
2012 Liberal Arts
2013 Kill Your Darlings
2013 Very Good Girls
2013 In Secret
2013 Oldboy
2014 Captain America: The Winter Soldier
2014 Godzilla
2015 Avengers: Age of Ultron
2015 I Saw the Light
2016 Captain America: Civil War
2017 Ingrid Goes West
2017 Wind River
2017 Kodachrome
2018 Avengers: Infinity War
2019 Avengers: Endgame
2018-2019 Sorry for Your Loss (TV)
2021 WandaVision (TV)
2022 Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
2023 Love and Death (TV)

Mark Ruffalo
2004 We Don’t Live Here Anymore
2004 Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
2004 13 Going on 30
2004 Collateral
2005 Just Like Heaven
2005 Rumor Has It…
2006 All the King’s Men
2007 Zodiac
2007 Reservation Road
2008 Blindness
2008 The Brothers Bloom
2008 What Doesn’t Kill You
2009 Where the Wild Things Are
2010 Sympathy for Delicious
2010 The Kids Are All Right
2010 Shutter Island
2010 Date Night
2011 Margaret
2012 The Avengers
2012 Thanks for Sharing
2013 Iron Man 3
2013 Now You See Me
2013 Begin Again
2014 Infinitely Polar Bear
2014 Foxcatcher
2015 Avengers: Age of Ultron
2015 Spotlight
2016 Now You See Me 2
2017 Thor: Ragnarok
2018 Avengers: Infinity War
2019 Captain Marvel
2019 Dark Waters
2020 I Know This Much Is True (TV)
2021 Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
2021 What If…? (TV)
2022 The Adam Project
2022 She-Hulk: Attorney at Law (TV)
2022 Poor Things

 

I feel like Daniel Radcliffe has made interesting choices