Entertainment Forum General Chat Thread [ARCHIVED] • Page 1088

Yeah, compression sucks, but I don't really disagree with the main point those tweets are getting at. ESPECIALLY lack of dialogue forward sound mixes

 

Joad seems like a dork

 

True…Seems like the kind of guy that goes to the movies a lot

 

I’m just saying if you’re gonna rant about a director and/or movie at least get the production company correct instead of reductively calling it an “A24 nun horror movie”

and making movies for “what the audience is watching it on” you end up with shit like this

 

Went to a showing of the 1953 Ed Wood film Glen or Glenda, which was my first time watching an Ed Wood film. What a raw, fascinating, fun, trippy, schlocky... very of-its-time film. What a great time.

The event was also hosted by writer/PhD/podcaster Anthony Oliveira (who was promoting his gay Jesus book, Dayspring) and drag queen Alora Chateaux. Big fan of Oliveira through the comics space, particularly X-Men fandom, and been jealous for a long time of the people in Toronto who get to see his Dumpster Raccon Cinema events, so I'm thrilled he somehow ended up in Pittsburgh for this event.

 

lmao this guy can absolutely eat shit and shut the fuck up, yes please bootlick for Netflix, Amazon, Max etc

 

That 1 out of a 1000 where filmmaker made an adaptation their own and made it better is Verhoeven's Starship Troopers

 

Of course I get where Martin is coming from, but film and books are different mediums. Extremely faithful adaptations tend to be pretty boring, and I think the best adaptations are usually enhanced by the writer/director drawing out different themes or incorporating what makes the work important to them. Killers of the Flower Moon is an obvious example. Lots of talk about this on the recent Paprika episode of Blank Check too.

 

Idk, yeah, I’d argue adaptations are generally better when creatives are making it their own. Even if it’s “worse,” if it’s a different thing, it has value in existing. If that “their own” is genuinely bad, it’s because the people involved are bad (or idk, set up to fail by the studio or whatever).

Though, from what I’ve heard from those Gamers-of-Thrones or whatever that fandom’s called… if my work was handled like that, I’d probably form that opinion, too.

 

Also, obligatory "If GRRM didn't want the ending bungled he should have written the books" comment.

 

Maybe I’m biased as a fan of the Big 2 of superhero comics, lol. But imo, if you’re a good writer, you should be able to come up with a good ending to a story someone else started?

 

Oh absolutely. I'm just not sure that Benioff and Weiss are good writers. I didn't even hate the final couple seasons of GOT as much as some people, but it is a noticeable drop in quality.

 

The Godfather, The Shining, Starship Troopers.

 

Sean Fennessey giving us a state of the union address. Good monologue

 

It’s not often I have read both the book and seen the film, but usually when I do I prefer the book. I’ve usually read the book first though, so that’s going to come in with built in bias.

Everything I’ve heard about The Godfather and Starship Troopers makes me think the films are superior.

 

Does this count? Puzo co-wrote the screenplay with Coppola. He basically adapted his own work.

 

Using Benioff as an example again, how does 25th Hour compare? He wrote the book and screenplay, but it’s clearly a Spike Lee end product.

 

it counts, adaptation is more than the screenplay and I think Puzo had criticisms of the movie

 

TBF, I Think with movies it makes more sense because a movie can only be so long.

But for this new long form story telling we've been gifted with prestige TV, I feel like you should be able to be more faithful to the works. People have shown they have an attention span for it if it's good.