Emery - Eve (November 9, 2018) Album • Page 22

I have not been entirely invested in this band since In Shallow Seas.

Though I do think this band is at their best when they lean towards theirs catchy/poppier tendencies.

 

Ok, this album is finally starting to click with me- I am digging a majority of this record now

 

Are there other cuts like "Is This the Real Life"? Like in that poppy vein.

 

Hi.

 

I just love Toby's voice. Has anyone read his True Man stuff?

 

how does a band have not 1 but 2 incredible vocalist and not be bigger haha

 

Just got tickets to see them in Philly. Who will I see there? @The Mysterious ??

 

I’ll be at the one in Akron!

 

Haha whoops. I just really love that song and like @disambigujason said it's a good example of a necessarily long track.

Spicy!

 

I’m entirely with you! It’s quite possibly my favorite on the album. And for the record, I’m a big fan of judging people by repeating what they’ve said with a “huh” at the end.

 

First listen through this album (thanks @teebs41!) and I’m still trying to figure out how I feel. It’s definitely good, but I can already tell it’s gonna be a grower. Excited to dig in more.

 

Sherwood have dropped off the tour but they’ve added He Is Legend!

 

been listening back through their catalog in anticipation of eve and im only a man is a jam of an album nomatter what they say

 

I'm with you.

 

It’s jam of an album no matter what they say, and words can’t bring it down.

 

to be honest, its beautiful
in every single way

 

I really need to revisit it so that I don’t bring it down today.

 

we need to talk about the genius of fear yourself into jesus wept. Musically this is a brilliant transition, this isn't just mashing two songs together.

Fear yourself is in 3/4 and Jesus wept is in 4/4.. both songs are the same tempo. So how can the drum beat be the same at the end of fear yourself as it is in the beginning of Jesus wept.. HOW DID THEY DO THIS?? actually its pretty simple but brilliant

by placing the snare drum alternating between beats 2 and 1 and 3 in "fear yourself" it sets up the next song perfectly.

so the counting on "fear yourself" is "one TWO three ONE two THREE one TWO three ONE two THREE" (caps numbers are where the snare is placed) then when "Jesus wept" starts the snare drum is set up to be on two and four.. BRILLIANT stuff. not sure i've ever seen it done like that before.

 

This is called a hemiola (I did not make that up).

 

ah yes, I completely forgot about that term haha. Some of these things leave the brain as time from school grows

 

Josh does it a ton on early Coheed records, if you're looking for other cool examples. That said, this Emery transition is especially badass.

 

This is fascinating information! I'm so musically ignorant. So that's why it's split into two songs then? Are there any examples of bands doing it within a song or is this something that's best used for a transition from one track to another like this case? (I know @bodkins said Coheed did it quite a bit - was that within songs or from one song to another?)

 

I don’t listen to coheed so I don’t know that example.

Emery actually has been doing 2 over 3/4 time since playing with Fire, they also do it on the song hard times. But I’ve never heard them do it to transition from 3/4 to 4/4.

Funny enough the song “Safe” on this album does it as well for the second verse.

 

Teebs we talked about this.

 

A well known tune that does this would be “Kashmir” by Led Zepellin. Guitars are phrased in 3 (in the intro/verse), but the drums are played like they’re in 4 in the same way this Emery tune does. Outside of the verse, a lot of sections are in 4/4 (with some other weird meter stuff thrown in) and the drums keep the same snare pattern.

“That’s What You Get” by Paramore does something similar, but the parts are seperated by a couple measures rest. It’s cool, but not the same effect.

Usually, the hemiola feel doesn’t transition to 4/4 and like teebs I’ve never heard it transition between two songs. He’s right, it’s something that’s A) really cool and B) really rare.