Drake - Certified Lover Boy (September 3, 2021) Album • Page 11

when he clearly has no inspiration, he tries to find inspiration in himself. Feels like the main theme of this album, on cruise control, Drake doing a Drake impersonation

 

Yep, and I also think there's a big part where ego takes over too. These artists know that more tracks means higher streaming numbers. Drake knows with 21 tracks, this album goes #1 no matter what it's up against, and his ego wants that number one more than he wants the actual critical acclaim

 

anyway im done. strong 3 to a light 4. more uninspiring, bland, lifeless, beige music from someone who used to have a spark behind his sound that is just completely gone. its like listening to an album put out by a brand, not a true musical artist.

 

Dawg…. What? Lol

 

prove me wrong

 

i mean in one respect i get it, rap is one of the last genres where artists actually have a shot at making big money if they not only do it right but also get extremely unfathomably lucky and wind up at the right place right time. and considering the humble beginnings of a lot of rappers (not drake, mind you) i understand the hunger to want to put out an album that makes a shit load of money. it just sucks that in most cases the art is sacrificed.

 

I think my thing with drake is it feels like he is always chasing that high from take care/nothing was the same. Like I’ve heard 3 songs now where I was like oh this sounded better on NWTS.

 

it definitely makes me wonder what the landscape looks like if the billboard equation changes in a way that longer albums don't necessarily make for more equivalent albums, do the albums go back to being normal-ish length again? Do they start feeling more creative again? Who knows....

 

steve is right there isn't a full kid cudi album that's great or even like....good. man on the moon comes close and i would say its good but thats mostly for nostalgia's sake. but really...its unfocused and falls into a lot of your typical debut mainstream rap album traps, especially for its era. ive never listened to it in one sitting and i probably never will.

 

Man on the Moon 2 and Indicud.

Now everything after those…. Pretty mid

 

i feel like rap albums have always been longer than your average rock or pop album, but it used to be because they were like...13-15 tracks long. like i said im nostalgic for nothing was the same only being 13 tracks! but now 18+ has become the norm idk if theres any going back until it just kind of naturally shifts on its own. like if the rules changed rap albums wouldnt start being lean again overnight

 

Kids See Ghosts is good because it’s short and it doesn’t allow Kid Cudi to go too far off into the psychedelic shit that I think often weighs him down. Great features too.

 

we just gotta stop with 90 minute albums

Please

 

you might be the first person ive ever seen go to bat for man on the moon 2 being a good record the entire way through

 

This too. That album is v good.

 

Indicud is the closest he came to a full great album but there's still plenty of clunkers there. MOTM II never connected with me, felt like the epitome of sophomore slump. But all 3 are still better than any after

 

my favorite album of all time is 73 minutes long, i dont mind long albums if there's a purpose behind it, the quality doesnt suffer, and i can get through it in one sitting without feeling like im trying to overcome some impossible task put in front of me regardless of i have the free time or not (i do)

 

man, I love Rick Ross. He may not go very far outside his lane, but he's so fucking good at what he does

 

i havent listened to or thought about kids see ghosts since the week it came out

 

Ive seen lots of people praise it over the years. It’s pretty good.

 

yeah, I'm a big Mars Volta fan and have no issue with length as a concept, it just has to be warranted

 

even the people who like it hardly ever argue that it's consistent

 

I just can’t imagine the discussions they had to have to push this back.

Like did Drake need to demand 10 more midtempo beats from 40 that he could drone over so he could juice the streaming numbers?

 

This isn’t interesting enough to be 21 tracks and 90 minutes

 

40 sounds bored lol these are the kinds of beats he can knock out in his sleep 24/7