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Doctor Who TV Show • Page 19

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by clockwise, Apr 2, 2016.

  1. Rowan5215

    An inconsequential shift as the continents drift.

    lol so much stuff kinda doesn't make a lot of sense in light of this. why didn't Clara see any Doctor before Hartnell when she was inside the Doctor's entire timeline in The Name of the Doctor? why did the explorer Timelord arbitrarily put a limit of 13 regenerations when she could have given her people literally infinite life? The Last of the Timelords hinted pretty heavily that exposure to the Untempered Schism was what made Gallifreyans into Timelords, which I always really liked, but I guess they just take children and show them the continuum of time itself for no reason? and what's the probability that the Doctor has never encountered her pre-Hartnell self in her thousands of years of travelleing, and then encounters one like a few weeks before she learns about all her past lives?

    idk, I'm not someone who's obsessed with continuity to the most minute detail, and this show is kind of designed to be constantly remade, but this twist seems pretty close to show-breaking imo. moreso because it fundamentally changes the Doctor's arc in a way I'm not sure I like and can't really be undone. I care a lot less about The Brain of Morbius finally making sense than I do about the wonderful arc from Hartnell to now being lost.
     
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  2. JoshShulkin

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    Currently I'm just hoping that the Matrix was messed with (by the Master, or Rassilon, or someone else) to be made to look like the Doctor was the timeless child, for whatever reason, but it turns out it wasn't her. Like the whole story works as an origin story for Time lords, I suppose, I just don't get why they needed to make the Doctor this special. She's always been special because of what she's done, not who or what she is. If Chibnall was going to retcon the history of the Doctor and Gallifrey and the Time Lords and then immediately say none of it matters to the show or the Doctor, what is the point of doing it at all?

    Also firmly believe Ruth Doctor was a season 6B Doctor, until exclusively proven otherwise
     
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  3. mattfreaksmeout Mar 4, 2020
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    mattfreaksmeout

    Trusted Supporter

    I honestly don't really think they're going to address this much further except that I think we'll just have random "doctors" pop in once in a while now. But idk maybe there is a master plan. At this point really the options are to just stop introducing new lore or to change what exists, so I guess I'd rather they keep trying at least.
     
  4. mattfreaksmeout

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    Also overall I did really enjoy this season and think it was much better than Season 11 which was fine just not that memorable.
     
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  5. Rowan5215

    An inconsequential shift as the continents drift.

    The Doctor Who Lockdown content they've been posting has been really fantastic. They just published two new stories by Paul Cornell which are a little epilogue to Human Nature/The Family of Blood



     
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  6. Rowan5215

    An inconsequential shift as the continents drift.

    revisiting that: Tennant, RTD and Murray Gold all came back with basically no press whatsoever for this new one. super classy and heartwarming stuff, this show never fails to make me feel good

     
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  7. Importer/Exporter

    eat us or we’ll eat you Supporter

    Been watching through this lately again, favorite episodes from each doctor since the reboot. Capaldi far and away is my favorite era of the show. I’m struck by how often the last two Smith seasons are a complete mess. The storylines hardly make sense, the writing for Clara is terrible (and deeply sexist with the “i was born to save the Doctor” arc), and the Ponds get such an awful send-off.

    Although, i do think the 50th Anniv. episode is really great, and Smith’s last episode is a lot of fun.
     
  8. Rowan5215

    An inconsequential shift as the continents drift.

    agreed about Capaldi era being top tier (I mean it gave us the single best episode of the show). Smith's last season is a hot mess, but I never had a problem with The Angels Take Manhattan like most people - the battery farm concept is scary as fuck and probably one of the darkest ideas that ever made the show

    I still love s6, even though it's a big step down from 5 which is borderline perfect
     
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  9. Importer/Exporter

    eat us or we’ll eat you Supporter

    what’s your pick for best ep? Hell Bent?
     
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  10. Rowan5215

    An inconsequential shift as the continents drift.

    Heaven Sent easily haha. Hell Bent is both the best and worst of Moffat smashed into one ep for me, it's wild

    Listen and World Enough and Time/Doctor Falls would also easily be among my favourites of the whole show
     
  11. mattfreaksmeout

    Trusted Supporter

    I love Season 6 so much. It’s a complete mess and barely makes sense but god damn I love it. And all River Song episodes.

    Seven is ok but I think Amy and Rory got a nice ending, and there were some decent episodes.
     
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  12. Importer/Exporter

    eat us or we’ll eat you Supporter

    Whoops, Heaven Sent is what i meant! Lol
     
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  13. clockwise

    100 percent soft punk rebel. Prestigious

    The 12th Doctor will forever be my Doctor. All three of his seasons are my favorites. Obviously Heaven Sent is one of the best Who stories ever but I also think Hell Bent, World Enough, and The Doctor Falls are top notch finales. To go from the high caliber of storytelling in Series 10 to what we got in Series 11 and 12 (to a lesser extent) felt like such whiplash. I love Jodie and the companions but for whatever reason it just isn't doing it for me.
     
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  14. Importer/Exporter

    eat us or we’ll eat you Supporter

    I think it’s the showrunner. It’s sad that there’ve been relatively few memorable moments for what deserves to be a deeply memorable era of the show. Last season was a bit better than Jodie’s first, but i still don’t think Chibnall has really decided what this Doctor’s deal is, besides just being basically a superhero.
     
  15. Rowan5215

    An inconsequential shift as the continents drift.

    yes, Jodie is phenomenal and has the potential to be one of my favourite Doctors, but the writing... just ain't good. two seasons in and I still don't really know anything about Thirteen's personality other than that she's upbeat and says "fam" a lot. kind of really hope she sticks around after Chibs and gets to work with another showrunner, but I doubt it
     
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  16. xDumpweed182x

    Regular Supporter

    I think I generally feel the same way as this. Series 11 was jarring in a lot of ways, but I tend to blame that on getting used to a new cast/crew/etc. I didn't have nearly as many issues with Series 12 as it seems most people do, but I can definitely say that Jodie and the companions are the main reasons I keep watching.
     
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  17. awakeohsleeper

    I do not exist.

    I thought the last series was the best for a long time. I loved Capaldi but felt Moffat got a bit stale. I agree with the criticisms of the first Whittaker series, but the second was a return to what I love about Doctor Who.
     
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  18. Matt

    the bones are their money, so are the worms Prestigious

    This thread being bumped made me put on a random episode last night and now I want to rewatch the whole series. Also The Doctor’s Wife is so good
     
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  19. clockwise

    100 percent soft punk rebel. Prestigious

    Recently I've been listening to a lot of the Big Finish audio dramas and they're really good.
     
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  20. JoshShulkin

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    Same to listening to Big Finish. Out of Time that just came out with Ten and Four was really really good
     
  21. Rowan5215

    An inconsequential shift as the continents drift.

    the early days of Big Finish had like some of my favourite DW content ever - The Chimes of Midnight, Scherzo, Six's whole redemption arc with Evelyn, there was some incredible stuff. I really fell off over the years only cos they release so much content, I honestly can't get through it all
     
  22. JoshShulkin

    Regular Supporter

    Chimes of Midnight and Scherzo are both incredible, I’ve been meaning to relisten to those both recently. Early Six stories were definitely great, too, especially Jubille and The Holy Terror. But yeah, it’s definitely quite overwhelming anymore since Big Finish is constantly putting out something. I’ve mostly been focusing on following all of Eight’s releases and delving into a few other things when I have the time/money.
     
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  23. Rowan5215

    An inconsequential shift as the continents drift.

    I might have to dive back in when Eccleston's box set comes out because holy shit, I can't believe they got him. there's a few others over the years that have looked cool too, especially the War Master series I might check out
     
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  24. Y'all keep bumping this thread, and I'm sitting here waiting to hear that S12 is on HBO Max
     
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  25. Watched S12 on DVD. ...Mixed feelings.

    One of my favorite episodes from S11 was Demons of the Punjab because it focused on a single companion and had a deeply personal and heartfelt story. I feel like we didn't get much of that this season. Either there are too many side characters for us to care about any of them because our focus is pulled in too many directions (Orphan 55, Praxeus), or the episode starts out as one thing and turns into another thing entirely to serve the overarching plot of the season rather than the characters that have just been introduced (Fugitive of the Judoon, Haunting of Villa Diodati). The only standalones that really affected me emotionally were Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror and Can You Hear Me?. The two-parters that bookended the season were pretty great. Spyfall was just a really good time. I don't mind the lore of the Timeless Child, I always admired how the show is continually reinventing itself. I kind of like this iteration of The Master, the fact that he turned dead Time Lords into Cybermen is so sinister and intimidating. Jodie has a bit more grit this time around, the way she literally shoved The Master to the ground was surprising, and it was nice to see how adamant she was at not having a repeat of Bill, a companion becoming a Cyberman.
     
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