Doctor Strange In The Multiverse of Madness (Sam Raimi, May 6, 2022) Movie • Page 32

Sure, that was bad. But the show gives her a pass and even takes the time for Monica to tell Wanda that they’d never understand what she gave up. Wanda regrets the pain she’s caused. It’s all good. The movie does not give her a pass and tells us her only option is death. Cool. Cool.

 

In Wandavision, she didn’t mean to do it initially and then grew to the point where she was willing to give up her kids and husband because it was the right thing to do. It discounts her arc in that show to say she was trending toward evil already so that’s why she’s bad. The Darkhold just removes any morality/compassion that she has so she acts on her wants rather than being heroic and pushing through. I think we see glimpses of the real, uncorrupted Wanda at the end when she is telling the boys she won’t hurt them or anybody. “I’m not a monster.” Also on second watch, I think the Wanda in the mindscape that Xavier is trying to save is the real Wanda and not that universe’s Wanda based on Wandavision playing on the TV and it’s a corrupted Scarlet Witch that kills him. I definitely think they’re playing the long game with her as she’s definitely not dead as we see the red flash as the tower collapses when she destroys all the Darkholds. We’ll be seeing her redemption sooner rather than later.

 

I mean she was going throughout the multiverse and killing people while attempting to kill a teenager. She has to reap what she sows at some point.

 

Our Strange caused an incursion that likely caused insane levels of mass destruction and an incalculable amount of death. But hey, he had good intentions. He doesn’t need to reap anything.

 

I saw it today. I liked it for the most part. Somehow a movie of this magnitude just felt like… filler? But it wasn’t bad, just not what I expected I guess. All the leads were decent and Xochitl did really well with what she was given. Hope to see a little more to her character in the future.

I’m all for JK as Reed in the future. Lashana Lynch was exceptionally bad in such a small amount of screen time it’s almost impressive. Shame cause I really liked her in Captain Marvel. No idea who Black Bolt was but he’s dumb as shit lookin

 

Someone who accidentally messed up the timeline is not the same as a psychotic witch that is intentionally murdering people for her own selfish desires.

 

So your claim is intentions are all that truly matters? Killing billions? Well his heart was in the right place. Kills like 30 people, maybe? Well she wasn’t killing for a good reason so, to death!

 

Depending on what Clea means by "fix it", he might not have killed billions

 

Sure. But then it begs the question of why couldn’t they fix the incursion that 838 Strange caused. He got executed.

 

Based solely on the throughline of Strange learning he can't always be the one to "hold the knife" and not on anything said in the actual movie (I think), I'm guessing 838 Strange couldn't stop it on his own and didn't go to the Illuminati until it was too late. Strange and Clea together might be able to stop it. Maybe

 

I never even said that and I also never said Strange shouldn’t answer either, but Wanda is clearly, undoubtably the more evil of the two and shows little to no remorse even when she is aware that what she is doing is wrong.

 

I mean. How does one know when too much of an incursion happens that it’s too late? How does Clea know this? Why didn’t she act in 838? 838 Strange is clearly more knowledgeable on the multiverse than our Strange. Who’s to stay 838 Strange couldn’t learn to not always hold the knife?

 

But why is she evil? Is she evil because all the grief and resume finally broke her? Or did the Darkhold cause her too go that far? How does the corruption work? How long does it take to pass the point of return? I thought not all those who stumble are lost.

 

I'm sure all of that and more will be explained in Doctor Strange 3

 

Perhaps it’s going to be a job for Midnight Suns so Strange and Clea decide to go recruit some people ;)

 

Well that’s deeply unsatisfying for this movie then.

 

I'm here for Charlize Theron being the Nick Fury of the Midnight Suns

 

Yupp. Wanda is not a villain nor is she evil. In her grief she turned to a dark power and it corrupted her. She’ll be back on the right side again eventually.

 

I am down for Theron to be a major player.

 

I hope so

 

It would also be a good way to tie Moon Knight, Blade, Werewolf by Night, etc. into the larger picture of a multiversial threat. Could even bring Agatha into it.

 

Wanda pretty much became neutral at the end of the film by destroying the throne. Neutral in the sense that she has positioned herself to eventually be redeemed but emotionally won’t see herself that way. After what she did I’m sure she will have to do a bit of other things to truly see herself as a heroic Avenger, but I believe her WandaVision/MOM self is dead.

 

I really want the Midnight Suns/Sons to fight Dracula. Would rule.

 

She’s evil for intentionally hurting others for her on selfish desires (since in WandaVision when she admitted to being aware of holding the people hostage). Sure she can always be redeemed like when she destroyed the darkhold but she still needs to be held accountable for murdering the members of the Illuminati and the sorcerers at the temple.

The main Dr Strange also didn’t seem to be tempted to do bad acts after using the darkhold like Wanda had done.