Disney Moving From Netflix to Own Streaming Service • Page 3

The only standalone services that I'll pay for is Netflix and NFL (Which is definitely worth $70/month).

Granted, I'm definitely not the target market for this.

 

Generally, I don't see this being a good thing. From an ease of use perspective, multiple streaming services are irritating. To get genuine competition, you want multiple companies offering the same content so that they have to directly compete.

There are precedents for this already, so it shouldn't come as a shock to anyone (as Jason has repeated argued).

For example, Premier League football. Initially, Sky TV brokered a deal with the top division of football in England. They had exclusive rights to live Premier League matches. As the years went on, they televised more and more games until eventually, it was determined they were being anti-competitive. That resulted in a rule which meant all the live games were split into about 6 bundles and each one had to be put out to tender, with no one broadcaster being allowed all 6.

So, the situation we now have is that to have access to all Premier League live matches, you have to buy a hefty BT Sports package and a hefty Sky package (at one point, I think there were even 3 different broadcasters). To the best of my knowledge, Sky did not drop their pricing when they lost some of the bundles and you'll likely see the same thing here. If studios make their content exclusive to a proprietary streaming service, they do not have competition because no one else has their content to compete with them.

 

I don't get what everyone is up in arms about. If you watch Disney movies enough that you would want the streaming service, I feel that in the long run this would be cheaper than going to the theater to see all these movies and/or renting them once they're on redbox or Netflix. Also, it's not like Netflix has every Disney movie. I would imagine that the Disney streaming service would include more movies than Netflix offers for Disney Fans and I'd assume there are people out there who have cable so that their kids have the Disney channel.

Now I can't wait to hear someone say I got a bad education because I disagree with them. I was hoping that kind of attitude would die with absolutepunk

 

Because now for those people that love Disney and also love the shows on Netflix would have two services to pay for, instead of one?

Un-bundling like this really sucks, and clearly causes more harm than people realize. This is becoming no different than the cost of cable+adding "premium" channels, and from the looks of it, it's going to keep getting worse.

 

Thing is, I'll pay for Disney's streaming service - two months out of the year. No reason to keep it on continuous renewal... let the content build up and get my fix in two $10 sittings. That's less than one Blu Ray. The spectrum of Disney's programming is not wide enough, I'll only get it to scratch an animation itch or for some nostalgia. Netflix? Can't imagine going a month without it, even if it were reduced to 90% Netflix original programming. Gonna take a streaming sea change to break that mindset.

 

Honestly if Disney's streaming service included all of their properties, like all of the Disney Vault, Touchstone Pictures, ESPN, ABC shows, Marvel, Lucasfilm, and their various other stuff, I could probably be content with dropping Netflix and going with that and HBO Now.

 

Exactly. If you're a casual Disney fan, rent the movie from the redbox. I scrolled through Netflix for an hour last night looking for something to watch. There's a ton of content but a lot of it is garbage

 

That would still be cheaper than cable. Even if Disney is $15 a month, you'd still be paying under $30 a month. Also, if you love Disney movies does Netflix actually scratch that itch? I know Disney fanatics who go to Disney World multiple times a year who will be thrilled with this depending on how well it's executed

 

Okay, so what happens when others decide to unbundle?

The precedent this sets isn't great. It starts with one, then others decide they can unbundle too and charge their own network price.

 

Here's the thing with cable though, you get way more than 1 channel's lineup, plus most channels still have apps to access their back catalog

 

Disney is a juggernaut though and consistently makes quality content. Who else besides Disney and the already premium channels has the quality content to do this? Like someone mentioned earlier, would anyone purchase a Universal streaming service? Doubt it.

At the end of the day, we're talking about tv. People only pay high prices for cable because of the amount of content you get with it. Let's say this leads to a high amount of unbundling, consumers will get a lot more selective about what they watch and will cut out the unnecessary causing bullshit networks to start putting out quality content or get left behind

 

This isn't for people who want to watch a Disney movie between watching Breaking Bad and Futurama. This is for parents who have realized that Netflix's kids section is pretty lacking and don't want to keep shelling out money for DVDs. I think people who watch a Disney movie once a month think this service is for them. It's not. It's for parents who have Disney on 24/7.

 

it's for anyone who likes to watch disney movies/disney programming

i would subscribe to this in an instant. no streaming services have good disney movies and they charge like $30 a piece for each damn movie on dvd/blu ray. it's all a question of exactly WHAT the monthly fee would be.

ive thought for a while that disney should create something like this, glad it finally seems to be coming to be

 

I honestly don't remember the last time I saw a Disney movie that I didn't like so I'm getting more and more exited the more I think about it.

 

People pay low prices for cable compared to what they get. See all of these posts: Yesterday at 5:33 PM

The outcome won't be lots of quality content, it'll be cheap content. The scale you'd have to get to offset advertising is not where many will ever get (arguably Netflix isn't even there, given how much money they lose on producing content right now). Instead, you'll get two or three winners, and they'll charge whatever they want.

 

And, another point: The competition to unbundling and poor ease of use isn't another streaming service — it's piracy. If you have to subscribe to six apps to watch TV, the outcome is to pick the one or two that has the stuff you like the most, and go online for the rest. We've seen this play out in the music industry ... DRM and silos for content leads to higher piracy rates.

 

No, I asked what education someone got/was being taught because they clearly misunderstand the very basic points they were trying to argue. That has nothing with me disagreeing with them, it's that the economics and understanding of the principles are flat out wrong and misunderstood. Someone taught them wrong, or they didn't understand what was being taught, or they're sitting in a Capitalism 101 class and haven't actually looked at this market and situation. Spinning it into a "disagreement" is just silly.

 

exactly. the competition isnt any other streaming service, it's the internet. i'm one of the only people in my friends group who doesnt have a hacked firestick with kodi. people subscribe to either hulu or netflix and use their parents/neighbors/old roommates/mailman's HBOgo account and then watch everything else they need illegally.

 

Oh, and Facebook will be producing content within a year or two.

That's where this is all going.

Amazon, Apple, Google, Facebook ... that's the new telecom.

 

I really don't think most people in this thread are understanding the precedent this is setting.

 

It's being taught by this guy

 

what precedent though? exclusive content on exclusive streaming services is not really a new thing.

 

https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2017/08/introducing-watch-a-new-platform-for-shows-on-facebook/

We’re introducing Watch, a new platform for shows on Facebook. Watch will be available on mobile, on desktop and laptop, and in our TV apps. Shows are made up of episodes — live or recorded — and follow a theme or storyline. To help you keep up with the shows you follow, Watch has a Watchlist so you never miss out on the latest episodes.

As I was saying.

 

(most likely will be) dumb

 

Yep, price sensitivity and competition from Facebook, YouTube, Snapchat, and everything else is probably not going to lead people signing up for 10 "content streaming" apps and services. Instead Amazon will buy Netflix, roll it into their Prime offering, and continue to eat the world.