Deftones - Private Music (August 22nd, 2025) Album • Page 54

idk… I feel like S/T absolutely is weirder, and at the very least much less accessible than WP. also darker and much, much heavier and bleak sounding.

I still like Ohms more than this album at the moment, personally. don’t quite feel the way you do about Ohms about this one but I do feel like the hype might have gotten to me a little bit. still a great record and it continues to grow on me but it hasn’t quite excited me the way Ohms did when that dropped.

 

Agree with darker and more bleak, less so with weirder and less accessible.

Ohms is a good record with some really high highs, but I agree that there is always something -- almost undefinable -- that gets in the way of me fully loving it. I think it could honestly be expectations, because here, "my mind is a mountain" lowered my expectations substantially, but that track has since grown on me and this feels very immediate. I know things take time to settle/grow, but I have to agree with the earlier comment about this, Diamond Eyes, and White Pony all carrying a certain energy that feels "breakthrough" or "revitalized"

 

The thing that's nice about talking about this band, though, is that even my bottom three from them -- Adrenaline, SNW, and Ohms? -- range from like, a 7-8 minimum for me. So even when I talk about certain things not working for me, they're still light criticisms of very enjoyable/good records

 

Gore continues to be the one that eludes me.

 

just saw them in Milwaukee tonight and while I don't think anything will ever top seeing them at Metro, performance wise I think this is the most locked in I've ever heard them, they sounded fantastic and looked like they were having a blast and everyone was going bananas to every song all night

MMIAM continues to grow in my estimation with each passing day, that song was a highlight tn

 

see, I loved MMIAM immediately more than most of Ohms, and MOTM even more so. but most of the rest of the record didn’t really live up to the lofty expectations I had built up in my head based on those two songs, not that they aren’t quality songs, just have yet to quite click with me on that level yet. I think part of what appeals to me about Ohms more is the darkness that hangs over it. I definitely can feel what people mean when they say that the band feels revitalized, and I agree that DE felt similarly (I don’t really know if I would categorize WP the same way personally), but well… we know how I feel about DE lol, that feeling doesn’t always translate to those being my favorite of the band’s records. I would always rather the band be in a better place than my particular tastes be catered to tho.

 

Self Titled as the follow up to White Pony feels way more “safe” and less weird. I really don’t know what is considered a potential single on that album aside from Back to School and Change (I think Digital Bath is pretty odd as a single, though it is catchy) and songs like Elite, Teenagers, and Knife Prty are all pretty big swings considering what they had done up to that point, and I don’t think Self Titled swings in that same kind of way. Also Minerva is probably one of their most single ready songs.

 

justice for gore

 

s/t does not give me safe vibes at all, that album is weird af

 

Deftones is weird as fuck in general and the fact that any of their songs do well on radio should be considered a small miracle.

 

I know Chino restrospectively feels like they played it safe on S/T, but even with "Minerva," that record is too dark and heavy and menacing to be considered "safe" imo. It's just not experimental in the same way that White Pony was, and that's okay. I feel like in some ways, S/T has gone on to inform their sound on later records more that WP has

Also, "Digital Bath" is a great single - one of the first songs that really pulled me to them

 

S/T is SAFE?!? lol, lmao even.

 

Lucky You and Anniversary back to back alone is some of the most out there stuff on a Deftones album surely

 

White Pony is an album filled with big hooks, and fairly conventional song structures. it’s also their most commercially successful album and the one they remain defined by to this day, don’t think that’s a coincidence at all. if S/T were a truly safe follow up record then I think it would have been received very differently. a big part of why S/T didn’t land as hard is that people very much wanted White Pony 2 and in absolutely no way is that what they delivered.

 

S/T was the album they made to distance themselves from the nu metal scene. Definitely would not call it safe album lol

 

they’re all safe because I feel safe while listening to them

 

I don't feel safe when I listen to S/T. I'm 17 and AFRAID of Deftones

 

Wuss.

 

i never hear them on the radio or even when i was growing up. i think its just my local radio stations being total garbage though, because we definitely had a station hear that only played alternative for several decades, but we got no deftones. makes me mad thinking about it.

 

I was introduced to the band with Change circa 2000, which got pretty heavy airplay on my local rock station. Don't recall anything from S/T or SNW getting much, if any, and radio was pretty irrelevant after that.

 

I heard Minerva on the radio when it was first released, but that was in their hometown of Sacramento. Also heard MoS on the same station in 1998.

 

think it was Change that I heard first and then it was off to the races

 

imagine not liking this band

 

speaking of which: caught another video of some dweeb saying this album was middle of the pack in terms of their albums. suffice to say I didn't subscribe

 

I would definitely consider it to be in the middle tier of my ranks at the moment, but it’s not really much of a knock on the quality of this record. they have an incredibly stacked discography.