jasto9 will defend a rapist but his line is drawn at andrew being annoyed at people who shat on him before giving him a real chance
Yeah lol if anything Andrew is much less problematic than the past frontmen of the band (with the possible exception of Kurt). I’ve met him many times over the years at Eidola shows and I’ve always thought he’s a good guy, I’m sure being thrust into such a prominent role in a band with a VERY toxic fanbase can’t be easy.
No, I defend the truth, actually. That really bothers some of you that spend all day hanging out in the "Accountability" thread. Funny thing about accountability is it's a two-way street. But I'm not getting into this again because some gutless mod decided I needed a "time-out" over it.
Does your truth include the fact that Tilian, Andrew, Matt, Will, Sergio, Andrew, Rise Records, lawyers, and who knows how many more can all attest to the fact that she followed them around the country on tour and only made that Reddit post after Tilian told her he wasn't looking to get into a relationship with her? We can do this all day. Only one side has a lot more receipts than the other. You believe what you want. I don't fucking give a shit either way.
You have your stories mixed up man. We're all talking about the 2nd allegations. You are referencing the first allegations.
free speech for me but not for thee, let me talk as much shit as possible but if you talk back you're out of line which is why I'm fine with andrew responding the way he is because it's people like this he's talking to
No I don't. Do you want to be the pot or the kettle? OK....do you, kid. Really has nothing to do with a free speech issue. I've lurked here long enough to know what kind of people post here. Bathe in your moral superiority complex. I'm done engaging.
Come on dude This part that you posted is in fact about the first allegations. The one you talk about following them around the country on tour. https://www.reddit.com/r/dancegavindance/comments/v2c6w7/i_want_to_talk_about_tilian/ We are talkng about the 2ND allegations, who is a totally different person. https://www.reddit.com/r/dancegavindance/comments/v2sst7/my_tilian_story_with_pictures/
I like that single too, I do miss Cory as well but on second listen and beyond the song clicked. they still got it
I never gave JJ a shot bc the whole band felt so ick at the time it released, but I finally spun it a few times recently. It's bloated and somewhat stale, but not as bad as I figured, and a definite rebound from AB. Think I'm familiar enough with it and the new one to do a ranking/tier list. DBM Mothership Acceptance Speech Deathstar Happiness Jackpot Juicer DBM2 Artificial Selection Instant Gratification Pantheon Afterburner
New album is still new enough that I cannot rank it without some recency bias, but it will be in the top-end of the list without a doubt. And I think it is mainly due to the fact that the "weaker" songs on Pantheon are far, far better than the weaker songs on most of the other albums. But also I am already finding myself pretending Space Cow does not exist lmao
This has a number of skips for me but a few absolute all timers. The Stickler and Animal Surgery would already rank in my top tracks by them ever
Been listening to DBM too much lately, Pantheon fell off for me. Making a DGDVerse playlist recently tho I am fine with the album as a whole more than the past few where I skipped adding more songs.
Been checking this out. It’s good but I’ll never fully enjoy or listen to this band the way I used to. It’s pathetic the way they went about Tilian
I’ve accepted the character flaw within me that allows me to enjoy art by really bad people if I like it enough. For a while I really didn’t listen to this band the same way as I did before but when I heard animal surgery it was joever