Is Jon doing background cleans on A Shoulder To Cry On? I can't pin those vocals down to someone from their past, and the wiki page isn't helpful other than saying Jon also does clean vocals on Space Cow Initiation Ritual and A Shoulder to Cry On. EDIT: Ok I don't usually like going on their subreddit, but seems like people agree it's Jon doing cleans on the “With all of you gone, there’s nothing in our way now” part. That's wild, he sounds great.
Something's weird there cause apparently that track was listed as "f/ Kurt" somewhere way back when the album was announced, and it honestly sounds like it could be him to me. But everyone's insisting Jon now.
it's 100% him. it wouldve been cool if it was kurt but it doesn't sound like him and I believe hte band would've rightly credited any features. jon is also singing clean harmony during the space cow ritual chorus, if the video is to be believed lol. they show who's singing during whichever part and it def shows him singing during the chorus. the more I think about the album and listen to it, it really does feel like they went balls to the wall with collaboration. will's all over the album, jon's doing new stuff, andrew's singing and screaming, sergio had parts in writing the song, marc okubo helped write conqueror worm. it does feel like they treaded a lot of new ground imo
Nothing Shameful its not perfect but it’s easily one of my favorite albums of a stacked year. Someone earlier mentioned if Trap Door and All the Way Down weren’t released so early they’d consider this the best DGD album. I would agree, I’ve probably overplayed the first 3 singles. Only knock is the autotune other than George Clinton parts.
Pantheon is right up there with Happiness and DBM2 for me. Andrew more than met the bar set by Jonny, Kurt, and Tilian. He borrowed elements from what each of them brought to DGD while leaving his own imprint on the album. In terms of quality, these might be Jon's best recorded screaming vocals. Going forward, I really hope they limit concert setlists to just songs from Royal Ocean to DBM2, and then load up with Pantheon songs. Other than doing Tilian era songs that had Andrew features on them, a lot of that material is so Tilian-centric that it's hard for me to envision Andrew singing the songs at all.
I kind of hope they do the re-record route and pick and album or “greatest hits” of Tillian, Kurt and Johnny with Andrew now. A “DGD 2025” version so to speak.
I think for sure we will get It's Safe To Say You Dig The Backseat because there was footage from them recording it in a studio
Listened to the leak way back in the day, was extremely underwhelmed and, regardless, had no intention of revisiting because I was still firmly in "fuck these dipshits" territory, but this: makes me feel slightly better. And as an aside, Afterburner is tied with Mothership for best of the Tilian era. Y'all are nuts.
Very interested in hearing DBM/II songs on Tree City Sessions 3, but yeah, I’m not sure anyone out there needs to be trying to sing Tilian era songs unless they play them in a lower key.
I never really understood people not liking Afterburner. I think it loses some steam during Born to Fail > Parallels > Night Sway > Say Hi, but none of them are bad, just a little unmemorable. Maybe it’s controversial but I actually like Calentamiento Global, don’t really care what Tilian is saying but it’s catchy, and One In A Million, Strawberry’s Wake, and Nothing Shameful are truly top tier Tilian DGD.
Nothing Shameful is cool until Andrew shows up and kills all the song's momentum so he can do his little butt-rock power ballad interlude.
lol what his part of Nothing Shameful is the best part of that whole album Afterburner is firmly bottom 3, they were so out of ideas on that one they had to steal some instrumentals written for Royal Coda just to pad out the album a bit. pretty grim stuff
Isn't Will the primary composer for both bands? Were they stealing parts, or did a guy write stuff for one band and then decide to use those same parts that he wrote for another band?
it was Sianvar not Royal Coda, my bad, but in both cases no - Sergio was the main bandleader and Will was the second guitarist. Sergio and Joseph Arrington are credited songwriters on Prisoner and Born to Fail, so those songs were clearly a decent way along to being in Sianvar before Will grabbed them to prop up Afterburner instead. incidentally, around when this happened Sianvar mysteriously went quiet/on permanent hiatus and the second Royal Coda album was super short, wonder why