they might be ramping up the promo for their new album slowly. I don't remember Code Orange making a big splash before Forever dropped.
I mean to be fair it's a little bit of both, their next tour is with Hatebreed, but yeah, it was Deftones/Gojira/System of a Down/5FDP in the past few months.
I dunno if I'd agree with that, I think they've been pretty adamant with staying in the hardcore scene even while toe-ing the mainstream. They're gonna be opening for Dillinger's final shows for one thing lol
They still take out hardcore bands on tour, they still play hardcore feats, their music is still rooted in hardcore. Mainstream exposure doesn’t suddenly change that
They're touring with Power Trip and Venom Prison that's not Hard Rock FYI EVERYONE should listen to Venom Prison. What could be better than Death Metal songs about cutting of the genitals of rapists?
Trivium would be hard rock with like, their 2015 album but the one that came out this year I actually like quite a bit.
Yeah they have played a lot of big festivals lately and the last couple of tours they have done have been huge. Plus they are an up and coming band, and they do have a great live show.
It actually makes sense that these guys are getting this kind of success with songs like The Mud and Ugly on Forever, sorta pushing their song other directions other than strictly hardcore. Ugly is very radio rocky (in the absolute BEST WAY)
Because categorizing things is fundamental to human nature and largely enables our ability to understand, and adapt to changes in, the world?
it's not necessary when talking about art though. why can't a band just make music and people listen to it if they like it and don't if they don't? can't the art just speak for itself without having to be labeled hardcore or hard rock or whatever?
I was mostly being facetious, but to answer your question(s): yes, for some people, and apparently no for others. I would guess that, for some, applying genre labels to the music is an integral part of how they interact with the music. For me, personally, it's helpful when deciding what I want to listen to when I don't have a particular artist/album/song in mind. But I, generally, don't go too deep into subgenres, or sub-subgenres.
I mean, I understand why people label things, I just think at some point it kind of dumbs down the art. Sure, labeling something classical versus metal is an easy way to quickly get an idea of what something might sound like, but arguing whether something is hard rock versus hardcore is unnecessary and basically equates to arguing semantics.
well, it comes into play when someone is being like "why this hardcore band and not other hardcore bands!" when they've pretty much crossed over at this point anyways