Idk if it was ever decided to not play it but he did wreck his voice for like 3 days or something from recording it
I do think there is some validity to the polish of TOYPAJ being different from this kind of polish, but there’s just such a vast difference of time between the two. If TOYPAJ came out today, it’d sound like this. I like that old sound a bit better, but it is just kind of what it is.
That’s really just it - calling something too polished back in 1999 is different than calling something too polished in 2023. Both things can be true even if they sound different because popular production techniques evolve over time. “Overproduced” is a pretty regressive term in this context but it’s not that hard to identify the differences people are referring to. I personally find the very audible pitch correction irritating in this and most of the other Barker/Feldman style productions
I think people think they’re saying stuff that’s new without realizing they’re just the new version of the same argument from 1999. The audible pitch correction was literally a thing said over and over about Enema and the live album (and is very audible on both). live long enough to see the same stuff come around again and it just looks the same in new clothes, but no one wants to think they’re doing that
Absolutely. Regardless of the term, we are talking about production decisions impacting on the enjoyment of the song. And Absolutely the pitch correction in Fell in Love and across the tracks released, to me is very different to the effect on Enema or TOYPAJ where now it is done in a style that sounds slightly robotic. I know Blink influenced MGK etc as well as the 'trap' artists who are into pop punk but they adapted the production into something removed from more rock sounding records and now Blink are sounding more similar to that iteration, even if it's an iteration of their own sound. Plenty on the newest Fall Out Boy album shows what a rock album can sound like in this day and age.
I think my ears are just not savvy enough to understand what "OVERPRODUCED" or "BAD PRODUCTION" even means. It all sounds good to me idk
I’m not the biggest fan of Barker’s production over the years, but I think it works pretty well here. He likes a pretty sanitary, tight sound, which I think is pretty much the norm now in pop-punk. He’s no Finn, but who is, really?
I’ve been listening to the new songs on Spotify while my wife and I both work from home and she HATES One More Time and finally asked me if I could stop playing it when we’re both in the room. Flash forward to this weekend, while visiting the in-laws and swimming in their pool, the song incidentally came up 3-4 times across a few different Apple Music playlists. She stood up in the pool and looked around each time to see if someone was deliberately playing it to mess with her. 5 minutes ago, out of nowhere, our toddler started singing “STRANGEEERRS” to the tune of the song. My wife is losing her mind.
I showed my fiance this and she got a real kick out of it haha. She just gave me the stink eye like "you motherfuckers..." She feels your wife's pain.
I mean if we are talking blatant pitch correction the live album from 2000 has by far the most blatant pitch correction out of anything they've released.
My fiance listens to Orgy, Björk, Steve Miller Band, and Devil Wears Prada, so a little different from blink lol She did like the OMT video, though
I actually have a real soft spot for Punk Statik Paranoia too. The lyrics are dorky but they feel honest and it has a vibe that I enjoy.
The production really kills me on that one, especially after how BIG Vapor Transmission is, it just feels so amateur to me