Black Panther (Ryan Coogler, Feb 16 2018) Movie • Page 19

Another Marvel Studios release, another conversation about humor.

My only question is what year this takes place in, so that I can know if Shuri's "what are those" joke is canonically timely or not. Though, really, I could see Shuri saying it either way, lol.

 

If it’s safe to say that Civil War takes place in 2016, I would say this takes place in 2016. I don’t think T’Challa would wait a long time (more than a month) to become king. So between the events of Civil War and Spider-Man?

 

Pretty sure at the start they said it was a week since the UN bombing.

 

Good catch. So we know most of the timeline of phase 3

1990s
Captain Marvel

2016
Civil War
Black Panther (a week later)
Ant-Man And The Wasp (assuming it’s shortly after Civil War due to the government going after Hank Pym)
Spider-Man (a few months later)
Doctor Strange (towards the end of 2016)

2017
Thor (2 years after Age Of Ultron)
Infinity War (directly after Thor)

None of this probably matters but in a shared universe I like to see everything add up nicely.

 

Did anyone have a a commentator at their showing? A guy a few seats from me would leave a comment after almost everything Erik Killmonger said. I would usually be annoyed but it was the first time I’ve heard someone cheer on a villain, so it was kind of entertaining.

 

Remind me what that joke was in regards to?

EDIT

Ah nevermind, the sandals scene lol. I thought that was hilarious and didn't even know "what are those" was a meme

 

I think it started a Vine meme or something. I assumed it was a meme because almost everyone in my theater laughed at it.

 

I only know "What are those?!" because I'm a middle school teacher. That line made me crack up in the theater.

 

This was good. Idk where I'd rank it in the MCU, but it's definitely top half, probably top third.

My main criticism is that the action is not quite as good as I wanted it to be. Shaky, as some people have mentioned, and not as visceral as WS or CW. It feels like bodies flying around hasn't gotten much more realistic since Raimi's Spider-Man movies. There's a long take in the casino place that was really cool in concept, but it didn't look real enough to hit me like it could have.

Everything else was awesome. The cast is fun, the world feels well-realized, the themes at play are compelling, the art direction/costumes/production design are awesome, and the villain is great. It's great to have a MCU villain that you can sympathize with and almost want to root for at times.

 

I was wanting to see what people on here thought. I understand where Killmonger was coming from even though he took the Marvel villain route with it, but do you think most of his rage came from how he was treated growing up in America or because he felt betrayed by Wakanda? He stated that all of the people he killed was to get him ready to kill the king of Wakanda. Of course there can be the view that he felt that his treatment growing up was a result of Wakanda betraying him.

 

man ill be honest i almost fell asleep during the middle. felt like a slog.

 

Seeing this in just over an hour. I'm so excited.

 

Before or after Klau was killed. The movie got more interesting after that point, imo

 

As I was watching the movie, my feeling was that his anger stemmed from his father being murdered and being betrayed/abandoned by Wakanda, but now that you're bringing it up it's probably a combination of everything you said. Clearly, there's a narrative of a child losing a parent and growing up around violence influencing his behavior and perspective, separate from all the Wakanda stuff. I just saw it last night, so my thoughts are still forming. I'm sure there are writers out there that have discussed Killmonger's character more articulately.

edit: Spoiler tagging just in case. Movie just came out yesterday here.

 

speaking of lines that had me+the theater dyin, when Kilmonger said "heyy Auntie" that had me in stitches

 

I think my biggest laugh was Nakia rolling down the street in nothing but a bucket seat and steering wheel lmao.

 

I also am curious as to why T’Challa didn’t tell the others that Killmonger worked with Klau. That would have halted views on him.

 

i don't think it would've overridden the fact that Kilmonger had royal blood and a legit claim to the throne

 

I mean he showed up with Klaw's dead body, so even if it was known that he previously worked with him, that probably would have still built up a lot of good faith. And people's views aside, he's of royal blood and had a right to challenge the throne.

edit: what Andrew said ha.

 

Both of those make sense. I didn’t consider that could override any wrongs.

 

Seeing this Sunday!

Also, I saw this!

 

This is likely to pull in DOUBLE Justice League's first weekend numbers and potentially beat it's ENTIRE RUN'S domestic gross in ITS FIRST WEEK.

 

iTunes usually allow pre orders the day of theatrical release. It would be nice if the digital version is here before May 4

 

Wow this was good! I said when he was cast for Civil War that Chadwick Boseman was probably the legitimate best actor in the MCU, at least as a superhero. Michael B. Jordan, Lupita Nyong’o and Daniel Kaluuya would threaten that. I kind of wish Killmonger hadn’t died, if he were a presence in future films he’d push them into consistently interesting philosophical and political territory. Killmonger might be the most interesting character in the MCU. I want to know everything about Eric Stevens’ journey.