Bamboozle 2023 Tour • Page 17

Bamboozle 2012's dismal ticket sales remains hilarious to me, given they spent a lot of $$$ on Foo Fighters, Bon Jovi and MCR (before Blink 182) and it still sold about as well as the 2011 edition which had a much smaller/cheaper lineup.

 

they thought that was gonna attract this giant new crowd and it just alienated their fan base and brought in like maybe 500-750 new people

 

I also think Bon Jovi secretly papers the majority of their big shows in order to get a "sell out" claim so, even back in 2012, they weren't quite the draw people thought they were. Also Foo Fighters had played NJ twice in 2011 (Prudential and the now defunct Izod Center) so round #3 probably wasn't as enticing to most people.

 

and also at the time those fan bases weren’t gonna pay those prices to go to see just them play a considerably shorter set list. The year before he had Motley Crue and I remember it being so surreal, Crue was playing summer sheds and filling them up every summer. Yet here there was probably only like 2k people there watching them, no one singing the words, just standing around. They looked so annoyed to be even playing the show. John D has always been a guy not satisfied with his place in the world. Always trying to reach higher but it was never gonna be attainable the way he went about it.

 

Bamboozle 2011 was the first time I didn't go all 3 days. The Lil Wayne/Motley Crue day was just so unappealing and I can't imagine either of those fanbases were the type that wanted to stand in a parking lot for 8 hours.

 

Don’t forget that day also had ICP headlining the second stage and they figured it would be good for 3k but you just had like 50 juggalos sitting on the barrier all day.

 

“as that’s what’s hot” regarding having more hip hop when hip hop has always been popular is strange. Not to mention a weird look for said hip hop acts getting booked knowing it’s only happening because hip hop is “hot” and not because the acts are truly deserving of playing.

But let’s be real, he’s probably going to get like MGK and some TikTok rappers and it will be terrible.

 

Let's not forget that this is the same festival who thought it would be funny to post a clip of them talking about the line-up and saying something to the effect of: "Yeah, that punk band [censored] from Philly. I think they suck but people will come to see them."

EDIT: At the time, I thought it was them trying to ape Riot Fest's social media personality and just totally not getting it. But in hindsight? It's literally just not them understanding how shitty that sounds. LOL

 

I went to the last day in 2011. I watched 4 songs of Motley Crue in a crowd of maybe 3,000 people. Then as we were walking towards the Lil Wayne stage we stopped by Insane Clown Posse's set, whose crowd was only a few hundred. Wayne did have a huge crowd though.

If I understood correctly 2012 was a huge bust. I think they needed to move 50k tickets to be profitable and it only peaked at 35k. It's why Live Nation didnt move forward with them. So it's definitely bizarre that John D keeps referencing the 2012 as the great example of Boozle being so innovative. He even lists acts like Riff Raff and Iggy with a sense of pride, but both of those artists were relevant for 15 minutes.

 

he def does the math of being like, ok Motley Crue draws 16k, and so does Lil Wayne, ICP is good for 3k, and Attila and Emmure will draw 1k-2k but doesn’t consider overlapping fan bases, those people won’t like the other bands etc. that’s 100% what he did with 2012 and why it flopped.

 

Looks like Fall Out Boy is teasing something new. Wouldn’t be surprised if they are one of the headliners for this

 

i would be surprised if this fest gets a bigger name than limp bizkit

 

That Sat of Bamboozle 2011 was the last of a scene kid's wet dream line-ups: Taking Back Sunday, The Gaslight Anthem, New Found Glory, Dashboard Confessional, Alkaline Trio, Circa Survive, Anberlin.

 

This is what I was thinking. Their headliner (Fall Out Boy) wanted any festival appearances to be announced after or concurrently with their album/tour/single announcement.

 

also Thrice, Transit, Tigersjaw, The Movielife, Frank Turner, RX Bandits and Plain White Ts. Plus a few good left field bookings like Bo Burnham and Vic Mensa. That day definitely was a great example of what Bamboozle started as, and what people want from it now. Ironically, 2011 was a weird phase for the scene, and that day sold pretty poorly. If I remember correctly, that day only sold 11,000 tickets, as opposed to the first day selling 19k and the third day selling 28k.

 

Ha shit, how did I forget about Thrice. I think they were somewhat of an "exclusive" given they were between albums at the time. You're right in that the scene had largely started to transition as people were moving onto indie rock and/or had just simply outgrown it.

I still think Bamboozle 2006-07 (both years) were insane, like WWW-festival level but everyone at the peak of their powers.

 

I had never heard of Yung Gravy before this lineup. I wish i hadn't.

 

he's not that bad lol

 

Yung Gravy is awesome. So much fun.

 

Not sure how accurate this is or if it’ll be on the next announcement but I’m hearing Fall Out Boy is one of the Bamboozle headliners

 

John D always looking to the future

 

if you can say, where did you hear? theyre definitely teasing their return/next cycle which feels like its gonna kick off pretty soon so, it wouldnt seem crazy.

 

A friend with connections on the east coast told me. We live in the Midwest tho, so I’m not sure if his connections are actually “in the know” or if they said it bc they figured it would make sense

 

Fall Out Boy is definitely seems plausible to be a headliner.

Also thinking MCR, Taking Back Sunday, MGK, Yungblud as some other possible bigger names. I have nothing to back that up just what feels logical

 

I dont think TBS is a festival headliner anymore, plus theyre not a reunion, im sure theyre involved but theyre an early evening play for 45 mins before the big main support act these days.