Bad opinions • Page 997

their about page has ~20 employees including will i am as the chief visionary officer, but no software developer to speak of.

 

He's always an interesting writer and I'd prefer he make a list from his own quirks and taste than just try to do a basic-ass consensus picks list, tbh.

 

I feel like he's drowning in snark 75 percent of the time nowadays and it's dulled his edge as a critic. He used to be one of my go-to guys, but I find him mostly insufferable now.

 

That's totally fair. I still mostly enjoy him because I feel like I know the exact measure handful of salt to take him with, but I get being annoyed.

 

Hyden is good generally but that list is pretty bad. Lots of bands where I can’t fathom the album picked (Waxahatchee and Gecs the most egregious on quick glance), bands that baaarely belong (White Stripes and Lana) and I can’t imagine not having BSS on a list with a 2000 cutoff. YHF is goated though and I have to tip my cap to the Constantines and Lisbon by the Walkman both being there.

 

Wait why do The White Stripes not belong?

 

Making lists like this with one writer is truly nothing more than clickbait, unless it happens to be some kind of widely agreed on authority

 

they’re not like, completely inappropriate to include but it feels a little bit like the rock version of including blink 182 on a list like this

 

Indie rock is such a nebulous term anyway, no one was ever gonna be happy with a list like this

 

Kind of a weird thing to say. Blink-182 wouldn't be considered indie rock in the slightest, whereas White Stripes were very much part of the explosion of that whole scene in the 00s. It's like saying it makes no sense to include Modest Mouse or Death Cab For Cutie.

 

I actually feel like lists by individuals are inherently more interesting because you get more unusual or left-of-center selections. Big lists decided by lots of people often have the same consensus picks.

 

For all of y’all that the website keeps crashing on them: get an adblocker for your browser. Ublock Origin is a good one or Wiper 2 for iOS Safari

 

I don’t care for the dude being quoted but this is one of the worst takes I’ve seen in a minute lol

 

off the top of my head Billie Eilish and Lorde would like a word lol

 

I mean.....also all electronic music ever made

 

here's the list if anyone is curious but doesn't want to try and navigate that website:

100. The Soft Pack — The Soft Pack (2010)
99. The Postal Service — Give Up (2003)
98. Ratboys — GN (2017)
97. Title Fight — Hyperview (2015)
96. Alex G — House Of Sugar (2019)
95. 100 Gecs — 10,000 Gecs (2023)
94. Mac DeMarco — Salad Days (2014)
93. Yeah Yeah Yeahs — Fever To Tell (2003)
92. Jessica Pratt — Here In The Pitch (2024)
91. Sleater-Kinney — The Woods (2005)
90. Cat Power — You Are Free (2003)
89. Broadcast — Tender Buttons (2005)
88. Sky Ferreira — Night Time, My Time (2013)
87. Low — Hey What (2021)
86. Steve Gunn — Eyes On The Lines (2016)
85. Cass McCombs — Tip Of The Sphere (2019)
84. Deafheaven — Sunbather (2013)
83. TV On The Radio — Return To Cookie Mountain (2006)
82. Joyce Manor — Never Hungover Again (2014)
81. Andy Shauf — The Party (2016)
80. Bonnie “Prince” Billy and Matt Sweeney — Superwolf (2005)
79. Blitzen Trapper — Furr (2008)
78. Yuck — Yuck (2011)
77. Marah — Kids In Philly (2000)
76. The Fresh & Onlys — Play It Strange (2010)
75. Foxygen — We Are The 21st Ambassadors Of Peace & Magic (2013)
74. Of Montreal — Hissing Fauna, Are You The Destroyer? (2007)
73. Fleet Foxes — Fleet Foxes (2008)
72. Beach House — Teen Dream (2010)
71. Weyes Blood — Titanic Rising (2019)
70. Bill Callahan — Apocalypse (2011)
69. The Pains Of Being Pure At Heart — The Pains Of Being Pure At Heart (2009)
68. Clap Your Hands Say Yeah — Clap Your Hands Say Yeah (2005)
67. Wolf Parade — Apologies To The Queen Mary (2005)
66. Constantines — Shine A Light (2003)
65. Bloc Party — Silent Alarm (2005)
64. Cloud Nothings — Attack On Memory (2012)
63. Amen Dunes — Freedom (2018)
62. Waxahatchee — Cerulean Salt (2013)
61. Wednesday — Rat Saw God (2023)
60. Haim — Days Are Gone (2013)
59. Phoenix — Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix (2009)
58. Real Estate — Days (2011)
57. DIIV — Is The Is Are (2016)
56. M83 — Hurry Up, We’re Dreaming (2011)
55. Parquet Courts — Light Up Gold (2013)
54. Jim O’Rourke — Insignificance (2001)
53. Wild Pink — Yolk In The Fur (2018)
52. The Walkmen — Lisbon (2010)
51. Rilo Kiley — The Execution Of All Things (2002)
50. Jenny Lewis — On The Line (2019)
49. Guided By Voices — Isolation Drills (2001)
48. LCD Soundsystem — Sound Of Silver (2007)
47. Wrens — The Meadowlands (2003)
46. Gang Of Youths — Go Farther In Lightness (2017)
45. Arctic Monkeys — A.M. (2013)
44. Air — Talkie Walkie (2004)
43. Jay Reatard — Blood Visions (2006)
42. Courtney Barnett — The Double EP: A Sea Of Split Peas (2013)
41. Phoebe Bridgers — Punisher (2020)
40. …And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead — Source Tags & Codes (2002)
39. Fiery Furnaces — Blueberry Boat (2004)
38. Joanna Newsom — Have One On Me (2010)
37. Titus Andronicus — The Monitor (2010)
36. Japandroids — Celebration Rock (2012)
35. Bon Iver — 22, A Million (2016)
34. MGMT — Congratulations (2010)
33. Bright Eyes — I’m Wide Awake It’s Morning (2005)
32. Car Seat Headrest — Teens Of Denial (2016)
31. The New Pornographers — Electric Version (2003)
30. Grizzly Bear — Veckatimest (2009)
29. Kurt Vile — Wakin On A Pretty Day (2013)
28. Songs: Ohia — The Magnolia Electric Co. (2003)
27. Band Of Horses — Everything All The Time (2006)
26. My Morning Jacket — It Still Moves (2003)
25. Drive-By Truckers — The Dirty South (2003)
24. Spoon — Kill The Moonlight (2002)
23. Big Thief — Dragon New Warm Mountain I Believe In You (2022)
22. Tame Impala — Lonerism (2012)
21. Vampire Weekend — Vampire Weekend (2008)
20. Mitski — Puberty 2 (2016)
19. MJ Lenderman — Manning Fireworks (2024)
18. Alvvays — Alvvays (2014)
17. The Shins — Oh, Inverted World (2001)
16. Deerhunter — Microcastle (2008)
15. Modest Mouse — The Moon & Antarctica (2000)
14. The Hold Steady — Separation Sunday (2005)
13. Animal Collective — Feels (2005)
12. The National — Alligator (2005)
11. Lana Del Rey — Norman Fucking Rockwell! (2019)
10. Panda Bear — Person Pitch (2007)
9. Fiona Apple — Extraordinary Machine (2005)
8. Interpol — Turn On The Bright Lights (2002)
7. The War On Drugs — Lost In The Dream (2014)
6. Father John Misty — I Love You Honeybear (2015)
5. The Strokes — Is This It (2001)
4. The White Stripes — White Blood Cells (2001)
3. Purple Mountains — Purple Mountains (2019)
2. Destroyer — Kaputt (2011)
1. Wilco — Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (2002)

 

Props for top-threeing the Purple Mountains record.

(And yes, I'm happy with my choice of verb there.)

 

Wrong thread Zac

gonna be a good album though

 

Fuck lol

 

Collecting vinyl was a lot more fun when there wasn’t an expectation that everything had to be repressed or made widely available. Having rare things is cool and hunting through the bin at a record store or saving up a little bit of cash for that grail record on Discogs was so pure and legitimately rewarding. There was always an aspect of consumerism to it but it feels like that’s all it is anymore

 

honestly it's just the price hike from seemingly every label and band these days (really post-lockdown) that has kind of soured me on the hobby. i went to my local shop to pick up deafheaven this weekend and it seemed like everything was $35-40, oftentimes for a non-gatefold record too

was pleasantly surprised the MJ Lenderman record was like $22

 

My vinyl hot take is that not everything has to be a gatefold and artists with single-LP releases should in fact not do a gatefold. Save some materials waste and conserve some space on my shelf.

 

Yeah I have probably bought as many records from like 2018 to now as I did in an average year from 2010 to 2018. Once an average record crossed the $30 barrier it started to feel a little stupid. I’ve been getting back into it and trying to snag a couple of my top 5 from every recent year, but the amount of single albums I see for $40+ is gross. It costs legitimately under $10 a copy to do do full color sleeve and insert and lacquer pressings and get them shipped to your door at 250 copies, they simply do not need to cost even close to what they do at the economy of scale the average release is pressed at today.

 

I think most new releases I’m buying, provided they’re a single LP, are generally between $23-$26. But yeah I really miss the days when that looked more like $16-$20. I remember buying the 10 year Futures back in 2015 and feeling like I was dropping that big coin at the merch booth with my $35. That’s like lower than minimum for a 2xLP anymore