Baby Driver (Edgar Wright, 2017) Movie • Page 32

The court scene was needed to explain why he was gonna be out under 5 years.

 

The subversion of expectations on Doc was one of the best parts of the movie. Y'all crazy talking about that one.

 

Idk. I feel like spaceys attitude changing on a wim is annoying. He acted whatever suited the plot more....its all well and good but when spacey pretty much sacrifices himself for baby... jeez where did that come from?

A week or a few days earlier he threatened baby and his gf if he didn't keep doing jobs for him

 

He saw himself as a father figure.

 

He also saw how pure Baby was with all of the cassettes, and how much he was in love with Debora. I think it's very believable he would want to help Baby.

 

A father figure that will kill you and your loved ones even AFTER you have paid off your debt.

 

But spacey knew everything about him... He only just realized how pure he was? And since when does that matter to doc?

 

And that's why the expectations are subverted. Only after do you realize what he saw the relationship like and how he wanted to use Baby for his own gain, but also did have another side to him we hadn't seen beside with Samm.

 

The footrace was one of the best parts of the movie. Best movie footrace since the Sandlot.

Doc was established as someone who was ruthless and bottom-line oriented: his involvement in the murder of JD/forcing Baby back into working for him/roughing up Baby when he feels threatened. But he was always more than that. He defended Baby when the other members of the crew got on him, and had a relationship with his nephew. Yes, it's a quick turn when he sees Debra and then decides to help Baby/sacrifice himself, but they paint enough clues in there where you know he's not as sociopathic as Bats/has some humanity/recognizes that he's likely going down anyway. Spacey sells it extremely well, probably better than it appears on the page, but Wright was intentionally playing in archetypes and every actor brought them to life as more than that. It's because of his intentional working with heist/crime movie archetypes that the subversions of expectations with Doc and Buddy's turns works so well.

I hope we're all talking about Jamie Foxx as one of the best actors on the planet. He's always been great but sometimes I feel like he's not given the credit he's due.

 

Ruthless and bottom-line oriented, yet he doesn't kill Jamie Foxx Hamm etc when they completely butcher the weapons pickup? But he kills that one guy for dropping his gun...

Father figure, yet he threatens baby and his gf only days before he sacrifices his life for them...

Hey, im glad you guys dug this movie and all, but to me this sounds more like a poorly defined character that could act any way he wanted.

 

Does anyone think he wouldn't have gone after Bats after the job was over?

Yes. That's why he's a dynamic and interesting character (and a bad guy). It's also a pretty common character trait of shitty dads.

 

I've been rewatching this all week. The Hocus Pocus scene is easily my favorite part of any movie released this year

 

I mean I guess I get the subverting expectations thing, but it should still have some setup. The nephew stuff kind of takes you there, but not enough. Every time he spoke with Baby he just he seemed too threatening too eventually go the other way. I dunno, I just needed a little more. At the end of the day, it doesn't ruin the movie at all. Like I said I enjoy the hell out of it. Might even see it a third time. And Edgar Wright movies usually get even better with repeat viewing. I usually pick up on a new little detail every time I watch one. So who knows, maybe the Doc good guy ending will work for me eventually.

 

Well?

 

That's not the only reason why JD was killed, but okay...

 

buying wrong masks? i thought that was the other guy

 

Nope, it was JD. He was an idiot and a liability, which like Bats very clearly explained, is why he was killed.

Bats probably killed him and Doc just did what he needed to do by getting rid of the body.

 

gotcha. Kinda crazy that Doc would keep such a hot head like Bats around if that's the case.

 

I liked this. But, one of my beefs is that the Atlanta aspect felt forced to me. I live in Atlanta, and mentioning all of the landmarks and highlighting real Atlanta businesses felt like an ad paid for by the city to me.

Could just be because I know Atlanta and this happens in other movies and I don't realize it? Any other Atlanta folk feel that?

 

Edgar was just thankful for the tax incentives

 

Toronto was just as much a part of Scott pilgrim.

 

Did he just happen to luck into two red cars being near each other or was that planned out?

That's something that I've been thinking bout forever.

 

I would lean towards luck. The way he had to force the other car over to switch positions under the bridge makes me believe the other 2 were not involved.

 

I've always thought it was planned and now my mind is blown at that luck.