Avatar : Fire And Ash (James Cameron, 19th December 2025) • Page 20

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by Azz, Aug 9, 2024.

  1. Crisp X Dec 24, 2025
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    Haven’t thought about Valerian in a long time, it feels like Dane Dehaan went MIA after its release too

    (still wonder if his movie with Aubrey Plaza is good, I vividly remember the awkward interview they did together)
     
  2. flask

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    He's in a cartel crime series on Amazon called ZeroZeroZero and it rocks.
     
  3. He was in Oppenheimer lol
     
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  4. justin.

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    Does this really count being that it’s not an actual trilogy and has 2 more films on the way?
     
  5. soggytime

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    Thankfully we should be getting more, so therefore instead of a “ trilogy” - No other 3 film run has ever been this successful

    Also, anyone that complains about how Avatar has no “cultural impact” measures that metric in funko pops
     
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  6. Morrissey

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    The thing about "cultural legacy" is that the competing major blockbusters of the era are based on comic book characters that are so old that some of them pre-date World War II. Of course those are going to be easier for a person on the street to identify. However, there have been 3 Spider-Men since I graduated high school, and I am sure there will be more, but it is very hard to imagine more Avatar when Cameron is done.
     
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  7. soggytime

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    Of course. Marvel as a whole is bigger on culture. But the nerds that act like avatar is literally nothing is objectively false.
     
  8. Penlab

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    Being honest, whenever someone brings up this topic, I find myself thinking about the question of what it even means to have a cultural impact.

    https://www.polygon.com/23496796/avatar-cultural-impact-phooey/

    I found this article, which suggests that too often we think of culture as being something physical that we can see vs. something more abstract, invisible, and harder to parse.

    The article only talks about merchandise, but I wonder also if people look at the lack of a sea of Avatar clones and think that means it had no effect on the cinematic landscape, or look at how little the overall environmental message has affected anything in our real world.

    It's hard to imagine the highest grossing film in the world existing in a vacuum though. And maybe the cultural impact is the movie itself. The article makes an interesting point in that people not only go see the films, but go see it in droves even when it's rereleased. Maybe the release of an Avatar film is the cultural impact.
     
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  9. JoshIsMediocre

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    At da movies now and some Pixar animated trailer just said “this is exactly like Avatar” so

    Checkmate
     
  10. Someone hasn’t seen Babylon
     
  11. Penlab

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    I saw that Hoppers trailer and I was like Leo when they made that joke.
     
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  12. soggytime

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    Years ago my feeling was “if Cameron is making a movie I am interested and if it’s an avatar sequel so be it” to after this movie I’m fully “I need him to make avatar 4 and 5 asap”
     
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  13. Why Bother?

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    On the fence about going to see this. Haven't been to the movies in ages and it's the summer here, so I want the AC and the doritos popcorn which I can't make at home... but don't know if I want to sit through virtually the same story again just longer, or having to hear things like "Sullys stick together"

    I do see Sentimental Value is also playing.
     
  14. Morrissey

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    Sentimental Value is better.
     
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  15. imthegrimace

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    This is better than sentimental value and deserves to be seen on a big screen.
     
  16. Penlab

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    Really tired of the "same story" complaint.
     
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  17. Morrissey

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    All sequels, to some extent, are retreads of the original; why else would you want a sequel? Terminator 2 is the same structure as the first film, just flipping the antagonist to the protagonist. The Godfather Part II is just another movie about a crime family dealing with internal and external threats. Before Sunset is just Celine and Jesse talking.
     
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  18. Aliens is an exception though
     
  19. Morrissey

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    Yes and no. Fundamentally it is the same plot; a seemingly indestructible alien, now aliens, reeks havoc on an unprepared group. There are variations on it (Marines versus space truckers, queen alien, child element) but it is all there. This is not a criticism, because the whole point of a sequel is to get more of what you liked originally. It would not make sense to make another Toy Story film but instead it is a gritty story about drug addiction, and no one wants to see a sequel to Goodfellas about the guy who carefully logs all the wiretaps.
     
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  20. Morrissey

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    On a bigger level, Marty Supreme is the third in a trilogy with Good Time and Uncut Gems, albeit with unconnected characters.
     
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    This scene blew my mind when I was ten years old. You can take a class where you just talk about movies? I wanted it so bad.
     
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  22. Penlab

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    Two of my favorite college courses were History Of Motion Pictures and Art Of Cinema. Just cool to watch films and learn how they were made and how it changed the medium.
     
  23. justin.

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    I once found out that a film class was screening the King Hu film 'A Touch of Zen' at the on-campus theater and decided to go. I thought it was open to the public but apparently everyone else that was there had to watch it while filling out a worksheet. Most of them looked miserable and uninterested. I may have been the only person who was loving every minute of those 3 hours. Some were also probably wondering who the heck I was.
     
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  24. iCarly Rae Jepsen

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    Why were you watching Scream 2 in 4th grade
     
  25. Morrissey

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    We had an illegal cable box that got us all the channels.
     
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