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Austin Carlile Leaves Of Mice & Men

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  1. Melody Bot

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    Austin Carlile has left Of Mice & Men. A statement from Austin can be found below.

    I never thought in a million years i would be sitting in Costa Rica writing this. I never thought I would start a successful band. I never thought I’d open for Marilyn Manson and Slipknot for an entire summer. I never thought I would go on a world tour with Linkin park and sing ‘Faint’ on stage with them all around the globe, I never thought I‘d become friends with Mike Shinoda and he’d help me write songs for an album of ours that sat at the number 4 spot on the Billboard top charts. I never thought I would befriend bands like Avenged Sevenfold, Metallica, and Korn. I never thought i would sing ‘Ball Tongue’ on stage with Korn. I never thought my band would play, much less headline Warped Tour, play giant radio festivals all over the world with some of my favorite artists, or tour in Germany, or anywhere in Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Brazil, Chile, Canada, the United Kingdom, Scotland, Holland, Norway, or Italy, etc. The first time i ever left the States was because of this band that I started in a tiny barred window studio apartment… I never thought people would ask to take selfies with me inside the Roman Collesium, on the Eiffel Tower in Paris, or even the mall I worked at in Ohio where Of Mice And Men was born eight years ago with the help of my friends in Though She Wrote. Kameron Bradbury now in Beartooth on guitar, recording our first song together in a local studio for just $50. I never thought putting the song “Seven Thousand Miles For What” on MySpace would reach over a million plays in a week, and that I’d sign a record contract of my own just days later. I never thought i‘d pack my things up and drive to California for the first time to find permanent band members. I never thought all my wildest dreams and more would eventually come true…
    I also never thought my fibrostic connective tissue disorder marfan syndrome would cause touring to be so hard and painful for me. I always thought the pain would get better one day, or that i would get better too. But this never happened, that day has still yet to come. From multiple surgeries, caused from touring over multiple years, and after cancelling a European tour half way through, this October 2016 finally brought me to my knees. My greatest fear had become a reality… I had 3 tears in my dual sac surrounding my spinal cord, and we discovered that every time I would push down to scream spinal fluid would rush though the tears which was causing me the violent pain every time I’d perform. It was causing my muscles to seize up, and body to contort on stage, and making me lethargic and sore every hour of the day. My doctors and team of specialists had warned me for years of the detriment of my career to my health, but I pushed through anyways. I always pushed through. I had to push through. This is what I love, music is where i found myself. But these 3 tears in my spine, plus a fourth that occurred the year prior, were signs that i was absolutely not able to scream anymore. My team advised me that if I continued to do so, it would cause “permanent and irrevocable damage to my spinal cord and nervous system.” After learning this I realized that I had to step away from Of Mice And Men. No longer able to scream most of our old material, or continue to scream on anything new, I cannot continue on. This has been the hardest thing that has happened in my life for a very long time, but thankfully the band, my family, and closest friends stand behind me and understand. They have all personally seen how much pain I have had to endure and especially the past 2 years as my spine was tearing apart but I kept going, I gave it my all, and cannot express this enough.

    The band will now still continue on just the four of them, and I wish them the best of luck without me heading into 2017. I will be here in Costa Rica, where I have now moved, continuing to heal, rest, and write. I will not stop playing music, I am still able to sing and I’m hungry for what is next to come even though I have no idea what that may be. I feel God placed me at this cross roads for a reason, and with the closing of one door, another will open. I’m taking this as an opportunity to grow closer to him, as he is the reason I never gave up or ended my life years ago while facing my various troubles. I have decided to listen to my specialists, and God telling me it’s time to do something new. I have to do this for myself, my health, my body. I’m so thankful my spinal injuries weren’t worse for I could have easily been paralyzed permenantly. I have now made the choice to use my life, my story, and my voice for his glory. To help show his love and grace I have experienced first hand to anyone else searching for the same hope. Of Mice And Men offered hope to thousands, but there is no true hope unless through Jesus Christ (yashua). I have now dedicated my life to sharing this with the world, which needs it so badly right now more than ever.

    Some ask how I am not mad at God for taking ali. This from me and putting me through so much pain and loss… My answer is simple: it is my path to follow, my story, and my life is not my own, but a gift from god in the first place. This seems like the perfect opportunity for me to use my story to hopefully inspire others who have experienced pain, hurt, depression or loss in their own lives. We all have our stories, we all have certain things we have overcome. We have done this together, you helped make my dreams come true, and I want to thank you all for the immense support over the years. Now I must do what i have to.

    I wanted to keep this news in 2016, because 2017 is going to be a new year, with new chapters. Remember your days are like pages, chapters unread, you have to keep going, keep turning, keep reading… Because your book has no end. Just like the ampersand tattoo on my thumb, we will not fade. You are in my heart and I‘m ready to start a new journey with all of you remaining by my side. I can do nothing alone, and I’m grateful I won’t have to because of you.

    Thank you. To everyone who has ever been a fan or a part of Of Mice And Men, from the start, Kameron, Joey, Luke, Ethan, Jared, Jaxin, Phil, Aaron, Joel, Justin, Jon, Shayley, Tino, and Alan, for everything, thank you. Here’s to 2017.

    God bless! X -Austin Carlile

  2. ConArdist

    Subgenres Should Die

    This wonderful man is a million times braver than me. Kept fighting for his love of music. The second I'd be diagnosed w/ Marfan's I would go into self-imposed isolation and severe depression. Hang in there, Austin.
  3. carlosonthedrums

    Cooler than a polar bear's toenails Prestigious

    Wow, that is intense. I can't imagine the level of frustration one feels when you can no longer continue doing what you love to do because your body turns on you. I'm guessing Aaron Pauley will take over full-time on vocals; he's more than capable of doing so, as his time with Jamie's Elsewhere showed. But wow.
  4. Turkeylegz


    His attitude has been nothing short of phenominal. Wish him the best.
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  5. joey-wan kenobi

    Happiness is a warm gun mama

    Damn. That game me the feels.
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  6. mattylikesfilms


    Damn, I ain't the biggest fan of Austin but this is pretty heartbreaking. The man worked and toured his ass off to get where he is and for his ultimate downfall to be his own body? Rough stuff. Best wishes to him and OM&M.
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  7. withchappedlips


    It's never nice to see this happen to anyone. Austin was loved by many and disliked by many due to his behavior over the years, but he definitely is an inspiration for people battling various different problems, and his fan base has always been passionate for him as far back as his Attack Attack! days. I hope he finds something that he can handle within the music industry, and I hope this means Aaron gets to really show what he can do for the band moving forward.
  8. kidinthebushes


    I wonder what Jerry Roush is up to now.
  9. disambigujason

    Trusted Supporter

    I was just listening to glass cloud the other day, really liked the royal thousand. didnt care for the last EP but they just disappeared after that.
  10. mattylikesfilms


    I remember that half the band left to join Glassjaw and that's the last I heard of Glass Cloud.
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  11. disambigujason

    Trusted Supporter

    Ooh, didn't know that. I saw em open for Silverstein once and it was quite the show.
    For the sake of keeping it Austin Carlisle's thread, they too put on a hell of a show.
  12. redwing91007

    Next Show - Foals April 22nd

    Never been a big OM&M fan but I definitely respect Austin. No question, this blows for him. I feel for the guy.
  13. Bane

    The spiciest meme

    Damn this seemed like a long time coming with all the news of various health things for him. Glad he decided to do it this way, even though it sucks for the band. The Flood is probably still my favorite from them.
  14. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious

    you respect a guy who has slept with underage girl, has had rape claims put upon him, and has had assault charges as well?
  15. redwing91007

    Next Show - Foals April 22nd

    When did all of that happen? Wasn't aware of it
  16. Ben Lee

    I drink coffee and dad my kids Supporter

    A quick google search pulls up a good amount of the accusations and issues he's had.
  17. Dust Of Fallen Rome


    It's been around for years. I'm pretty sure most of the songs on that Plot In You album with all the references to murder and revenge are about Austin's rape accusations.

    Just because I feel I should say it, this reply wasn't me attacking or trying to shame you. A lot of the shitty things these guys have done have been covered up. Like, nothing was ever posted about Oli Sykes's divorce and the allegations of abuse his ex-wife leveled at him. It's no surprise so many fans of these bands don't know the bad, bad things their favourite musicians get up to.
  18. Ben Lee

    I drink coffee and dad my kids Supporter

    Tell me more about this Oli Sykes thing. Links?
  19. redwing91007

    Next Show - Foals April 22nd

    It's good info to know. Since I was never really a big OM&M fan, or Austin Carlie fan for that matter, I'm not surprised I missed this.
  20. Dust Of Fallen Rome Jan 6, 2017
    (Last edited: Jan 6, 2017)
    Dust Of Fallen Rome


    This is the main one. As I said in my post, it seems to be in the 'alleged' stages of being a thing but still, it disturbed me and made me think.

    Bring Me The Horizon's Oli Sykes 'slapped and spat' estranged wife

    Plus, there was that incident from when I was a youngster where Oli "allegedly" pissed on a female fan for refusing to sleep with him. I know that's been disproven in court or whatever you call it when a case gets thrown out but still, super fucked and weird.
  21. Dust Of Fallen Rome


    Yeah I get that. I've hated OM&M on musical grounds from day one, so they were never on my radar. Honestly most of these bands have never really been my thing, that whole 'scene metalcore' thing (I always hated ADTR and We Came As Romans and all that garbage) so most of what I know about these kinds of bands is the dirty laundry I hear about from people.