At The Drive-In - in•ter a•li•a (May 5, 2017) Album • Page 14

I'm gonna try to listen to this today and really my only hope is that I like it better than American Football LP2

 

Look, I haven't heard this album yet, but I'm gonna just say translating the name is better than relationship of command

 

I agree, the album has a rather weak beginning, especially opener.

 

I love translating the name but that's a stretch. Anthony green probably wouldn't even be around if not for ATDI and volta they're like his biggest influence and it shows

 

I still think that ep is better. Tbh, tho, I think that ep is better than most things

 

Lol I do too. Hard to top seven years

 

i like this

 

After my second listen yeah I really think this is good.

Continuum being my stand out

 

I like this a lot, maybe even love it. Fight me!

 

Probably not a great sign that I haven't bothered listening to this yet but I am going to try to today. I hope it's better than the three songs I've already heard.

 

Ian Cohens review is pretty spot on

 

Yep, it just seems so unfair. I don't care if bands want to make money by creating reunion albums. You can't know if they're sincere or not. That's just unfairly judging their work based on you own far-fetched hypothesis. I don't get it at all. But the argument about it being stale is something I can agree with, tho I still love the record so much. I expected something more experimental you know ? Especially if the whole thing was a 5 year process, I guess Jim Ward pulled a Tom Delonge on them again.

 

Either way, the members' projects over the last 17 years prove that Omar is the creative mind. Sparta was boring as fuck, so I don't miss Jim at all.

 

Everyone's convienently skimming over the fact that they said money was a factor in reuniting to begin with and that I admitted my view is cynical. Don't really understand why you don't understand why someone who is admitting they're cynical and thinks this album was made for less than sincere reasons, which I'm basing on how the album sounds to me, would have the hypothesis that this is a cash grab. Seems pretty obvious that working in those parameters that's what I would think, even if you don't agree with any of it I've been extremely transparent in why I see it that way.

 

boooooooo

 

I do think it makes complete sense and that your thought behind it is correct

 

Eh few things irk me in that review. I simply hear a band sound rejuvenated, and 5 guys happy to be given a second chance after all those years and the missteps (2012 reunion, Sparta's failed reunion, so Jim Ward's fault again and again). Like how are Torrentially Cutshaw and Call Broken Arrow similar in any way to Antemasque ? Did he even listen to the latter or is he just being overly cynical ? Not a knock on him, but he seems a bit harsh (not to say snobby) in his reviews from what I've read over the last decade. First one, like I said somewhere else, is classic ATDI, the "Cosmonaut" of this album like I've seen someone say due to its urgency and the franti guitars, and the second has a huge late Engine Down vibe. Antemasque seems way more restrained, at least until Travis Barker joined the band.

I agree about the lyrics, I can't really get into Cedric's approach to writing, but I appreciate the... diversity of his prose anyway ? Idk. Then that whole paragraph about the production and Memphis May Fire intrigued me as well. I get his point, but put that way, I don't agree with his comparison. MMF's production (post-Sleepwaking) is bad, but it doesn't sound lifeless in the same way that this record supposedly does, more like artificial, cold and compromised by loudness war whereas this one at least seems organic. That said, last paragraph is spot on though.

 

I like the EP and the full lenght that followed it up. Their latter stuff seemed like the same thing over and over again, with less creativity tho. I think there are lots of bands that did the same style better (Hundred Reasons for example from the UK)

 

the production is very lifeless and it absolutely is a victim of the loudness wars, I can import the tracks into my DAW and show you the wave forms to prove it

 

Ok I've listened to this almost three times now.

If someone's cynical about this record, I totally understand it. I'm a bit cynical about it myself.

This is ATDI without any sense of urgency, necessity or purpose. The thing that was great about them in the past is hard for me to describe, mainly because however I try to explain it, the underlying brilliance for me was an almost intangible feeling that everything you were listening to had a hunger, drive and purpose behind it. Despite the way the guitars worked off different channels, despite the abstract nature of the lyrics, it somehow became something that didn't feel like an accident; in fact, felt quite the opposite.

This is ATDI trying to make an ATDI record and failing pretty miserably. I can't be bothered to decide whether this is crap or whether it's just average - it's just nothing compared to what they were before, despite their attempts to replicate it.

 

this is exactly how I feel

 

It's a shame that the consensus on this is that it didn't work out.. I tried it and it wasn't my thing but I also don't feel like it was due to lack of effort. I think they tried to make a record that recaptured the magic of 17 years ago.. it's really the same story of American football.. I think if both bands write and record again I think they would do a much better job of finding their current voice without the pressure of recapturing "lightning in a bottle"

 

are there any songs that are the most blatant ? not that i don't trust you, it's just that i know you're very focused on production and engineering in general so you always seem to notice those things more than most of us... that i don't hear though I have good headphones lol

 

the consensus on here only, i mostly hear good things about it everywhere else. from what i've seen, it falls in the "it's decent but could have been way better because they played it safe" range. i just don't get how you can blame the band for trying to sound like... the band. like, what do you expect ? well, i'm curious to see how my opinion and the consensus will change in a few years. i'm sure people who rated it harshly would have changed their mind a little. it's not a Refused situation where the album was a complete failure. it's more similar to Alice In Chains' reunion album where you know what you're getting, there aren't any surprises, but they do it well anyway. it seems a bit weird to expect them to sound as urgent as they did now that they're in their early to mid forties. is there one band who succeeded at that, at least in this genre ?