Apple Announces New iPhones, Apple TV, and Apple Watch • Page 5

Turns out it was actually the staff that prepped for the event that triggered too many "failed" attempts at FaceID that it auto locked. That is, at least according to Daring Fireball. I still can't imagine this being as convenient as touch ID. Maybe the added security is worth it though.

 

All those things you mentioned mean absolutely nothing to the average consumer so I stand by my point that the only noticeable feature is wireless charging.

 

Yep, so, your post about Face ID failing was wrong. It was acting as it was supposed to.

 

If you don't think the camera matters to the average consumer ... you're nuts.

 

You think the differences between the camera of the 7 and the 8 is distinguishable by the average consumer? You're nuts. LOL

 

Agreed.

 

AirPods my friend. They are the best tech purchase I've made in years.

 

Yes. It's widely cited as one of the most common reasons people upgrade their phones:


People love their phone cameras. Having a better one is always a huge selling factor and why it's featured prominently in Apple marketing.

 

Is that people upgrading every year though? My only point with my post is that the only feature that recognizably distinguishes the 7 from the 8 is wireless charging. The step up from the camera in the 7 to the 8 is so minimal that the vast majority of people will not even be able to tell the difference. What they cite as their "reasoning" for upgrading is completely beside the point.

 

That's just silly talk, what people cite as their reasoning is a big reason why people upgrade. The average consumer knows about, and wants, better camera features. Hearing about new portrait modes, portrait lighting, better cameras in the 8 and X, animoji, 4k video recording at 60fps, 1080p video at 240fps, faster charging ... these are things people care about and will move people to the phone. You saying the average consumer doesn't care about them ("mean absolutely nothing to the average consumer") isn't true at all. They mean a lot!

 

If you say improvement, they will come.
The 8 camera will be better. For selfies and Snapchat, prob won't actually mean a damn thing.

 

I'll def end up getting some.
Was trying to hold out for v2. Might not make it.

 

Thanks - this is very interesting. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction!

 

I just haven't seen them release any statement on whether they can/can't produce the new screens to scale. However, I still feel that even if they could they wouldn't rely on the X alone. A lot of people are already not sure about straying from the legacy design and that ridge at the top is horrendous, in my personal opinion. I feel like if you're going to compete with android near bezel-less displays, you should perfect the design a bit more, but that's just me. I do feel like they did a good job of making the 8/8 plus a decent enough spec bump while keeping the price reigned in enough.

 

Of course they're not going to release that statement. They did, however, say they believe they'll be supply constrained. And (links above), the supply chain analysts know what screens are being used, how much they cost, where they're coming from, and how many they can produce. So, that's how we know they're constrained.

I bet these are massively, massively successful.

 

I'm really excited because I still have a 6s and have been about to upgrade for a while now. but choosing one will be difficult

 

I mean, they have been pretty damn successful, seeing as how people have been wanting these phones for a while. Xioami has been making this form factor for years and the people wanted something to rival it in the states. LG, Samsung and HTC have done a good job starting that trend. Most consumers who just want ease of use go toward the iPhone and then there are the loyalist customers on top of that. However, a lot of consumers these days are buying Android and iOS devices, especially in the tech industry. It's not really a question of which is more successful anymore, it's just a matter of the scale with which they all compete. And apple's the latest in the running for the screen form factor so they are indeed competing

 

I never even came out bashing Apple, I said they actually had a decent strategy with this. Not sure why so defensive

 

Because you said things that aren't true. I was only correcting them.

 

On the production point, I saw your article and I concede. But comparing the gross success of Apple and the iPhone to the statistical popularity /consumption of the newer form factors of Android phones is hard to correlate when you're bias to the bigger corporation. So the sarcastic remark about the success of those Android devices is, in turn, also not true. They're just not on the same scale, they can't be. I also didn't state any untrue facts about the new iPhone, simply an opinion I had.