Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania (Peyton Reed, February 17, 2023) Movie • Page 17

Judy Greer should have showed up at the end and been like if you put Cassie in the quantum realm again I'll kill you

 

Yeah, kinda weird that Cassie’s mom wasn’t as her birthday dinner.

Did her mom even get snapped? Did she and her mom both live and they had to endure those years thinking Scott was gone?

Not sure why Marvel isn’t going into that

 

it was sweet that she called Hank and Janet grandma and grandpa but that dynamic also wasn't examined at all

 

Luis should have been at the council of Kangs telling them what happened to the Conqueror

 

I would have liked for them to stay stuck and then they could have had the young avengers rescue them

 

Have Scott, Hope, and Kang trapped in the quantum realm.

Cassie and the Young Avengers go there to find them and fight Kang. Kang can be pushed into the engine after that.

Would have been better.

 

there’s no confusion.

if it was meant to show either past possibilities or far off possibilities, it wouldn’t be all Ant-Men and one Baskin Robbins Scott. Minus Baskin Robbins, the probability storm is very clearly showing possibilities of decisions made in the moment. It does not make sense that one of the Ant-Men’s choices would somehow be Baskin Robbins. It’s clearly just done for a joke. Since it’s just a joke that doesn’t actually fit, having Luis pop in for a joke is not really that much less sensical.

 

I didn't think of it as a storm "in the moment" and I took it as the one timeline where Scott didn't get fired and actually cared about the job. Sure, it was also a gag, but I dunno, I think you’re thinking too hard about it.

 

It wasn’t a timeline storm. The Scott’s multiplied because when faced with a choice, one would populate to represent the other choice. It originates when Scott lands. That is the origin of probabilities. I’m not thinking too hard. It’s very straight forward. But it makes it clear Baskin Robbins was for the joke, not to make sense in that context.

 

Like, it’s not a huge issue or anything. It’s just one more thing that makes me go, “huh, that’s kind of lame.”

 

It wasn’t actually her birthday. They were just celebrating it for all the ones they missed. I think Mom would have been there if it was her actual birthday.

 

This also doesn't make sense because what choice was Scott faced with? I just assumed it was creating random variants of Scott.

 

Also liked the callback in the movie to Civil War and the orange slices.

 

you guys may be overthinking the amount of consideration a movie with the line "the quantum realm has quantum people" had put into it lol

the more I think about this the more bummed I am. feels like it was meant to be the moment the Phase kicked into gear but it's such a whiff instead. glad I'm still excited for The Marvels, if only for Kamala

 

He was trying to figure out what to do next. He had no direction to go off of other than “get the thing.” Remember how one was like “I’ll go big and just grab it?” That was one probability spilt from another Scott who would not do that. With no clear direction, the probabilities of how to proceed were endless. And since it originates when Scott lands suited up, it makes sense the others are also suited up. Once Scott realizes the one thing that would focus any probability of himself, Cassie, they work as a team. Every probability was there to save Cassie. Because all of them are probabilities of the Scott we know and have spent multiple movies with.

If it was just random variants, why would they all be suited up identically, minus Baskin Robins? Scott Lang exists in other multiverses and always becomes Ant-Man and has the exact same suit? Also, not every variant will have had a Cassie. Or even knew who she was. So working as one unit to save her, with her being the motivation, doesn’t really make sense.

 

I mean, I had these thoughts for about 60 seconds, and made one post about it. I didn’t spend hours thinking about it haha I have spent more time writing some posts about it, sure. But I’m not personally dwelling on it. Just explaining it.

And I agree, the more I think on the movie, the more I’m down on it. Feels like a waste of potential.

 

Why is every variant a Scott, though?

Makes me believe it’s meant to only be Scott variants. One single Baskin Robins is the one time Baskin Robins never found out.


99.9% are Ant-Man because Baskin Robins finds out 99.9% of the time

 

But they aren’t variants. They are temporary probabilities. They are not variants as the MCU has defined and showed them to be.

 

Maybe one of the probabilities truly thought a Baskin-Robbins uniform was the right tool for the job.

After all, he was trying to find out how to get the core, and as we learned in the first Ant-Man, Baskin-Robbins always finds out.

 

No.

 

C'mon, don't be a Debbie Downer, Greg.

 

Variants, probabilities, whatever.

They’re only Scott. All of Hope’s probabilities were different Hopes

 

But they are different things. Variants? Think of Peter Parker. We have three so far. All Peter Parker, all physically distinct in both suit and civilian form. Even distinct powers in some ways. That’s not what we see with Scott here. Again, this isn’t a huge deal. But the variants and the probabilities here are different.

I honestly have no visual memory of Hope’s. My brain had kind of tapped out on the onslaught of CGI. Were they not in the Wasp costume?

 

From what I remember all were Wasp. That’s probably because there wasn’t a call-back joke for Marvel to go to with her character.

 

All Wasp makes sense. But yea, if they had a random joke they could have shoved in, it absolutely would have happened.