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Andor (Disney+) • Page 62

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by Sean Murphy, May 26, 2022.

  1. Greg

    The Forgotten Son Supporter

    In the 3rd Rogue Squadron game, you play the evacuation of the base under an Imperial attack. Obviously, not canon haha but I figured they gave themselves an evening and then started to evacuate.
     
  2. MidDave

    Today is my Saturday Supporter

    Honestly I appreciate some piece of content following up on it but man they gotta get to Hoth ASAP lol
     
  3. aoftbsten

    Prestigious Supporter

    I guess I didn’t mean that all the shows were connected to one another, more that they bent over backwards to show how connected they were to existing parts of the universe. Mando was its own thing, but then had to tie in with Rebels and make sense of the first order and cloning. The Acolyte (which I admittedly haven’t seen) was a whole new era, but it had to tie in with Darth Plagiues. I havent watched Skeleton Crew either, but I also recall it being announced as being connected to the Mando-verse. Obi-wan turned out to just be an explanation of the line “last time we met I was the learner…” from a new hope that no one really asked for. It goes on like that.

    Andor, is on the surface just a prequel to Rogue, but it was approached in a way where it wasn’t overly concerned with fleshing out lore or canon or trying to shoehorn in characters. It had a vision and that came first. That other shows seem subservient to existing canon in a way this did not.
     
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  4. Cameron

    FKA nowFace Prestigious

    Mannnnnnn
     
  5. Cameron

    FKA nowFace Prestigious

    Wrapped last night and I’m just so hyped on this show and very happy with the outcome. The Ghorman massacre arc was incredible. Syril’s final moments being from his arch nemesis asking “…who are you?”

    Incredible.


    Then our girl ending up in an imperial prison is literally perfect.
     
  6. JRShoenberger

    there is one way out

    I think you’re making some assumptions based on when things were revealed. Just because Plagiues showed up in the last episode doesn’t mean it started as one then and became something else. You assumed it was one thing when it was actually another.

    same with the cloning in Mando. They didn’t change why Grogu was a target. They just revealed it over time. Maybe the rebels crew was added in later. I don’t know. But I don’t think that is a reason why season 3 wasn’t up to the standards of the first two seasons.
     
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  7. aoftbsten

    Prestigious Supporter

    Fair points. I shouldn’t talk about the Acolyte, I haven’t seen it yet. Despite the mixed reviews, I’ve at least heard that it tries something different so I’ll might give it a shot one day. With Mando S3, it’s not the only reason it didn’t work. Honestly, I don’t even hate that they are trying to make TROS make a little sense in some way. I don’t have an issue with how they set it up in Bad Batch either.

    I guess when I think more about it, my issues with the other live action Star Wars shows I’ve seen is that they ultimately seem to just want to expand lore rather than focus on characters and story. With a lot of them I will admit to enjoying in the moment, but after one watch I don’t have much desire to come back or think about them. Lore is fun, but having it be the driving focus isn’t interesting storytelling.
     
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  8. aoftbsten

    Prestigious Supporter

    The endings for all the fascist characters and perfect. On my rewatch of Rogue One, it’s one of the things that Andor really helped enhance. Krennic is presented as the top of the pyramid in Andor, but then in Rogue One, he’s at the bottom groveling and then getting spit out just like Syril, Dedra, and even Partagaz.
     
  9. Halitosis Jones

    Mr. Jones, the one from the Counting Crows song Supporter

     
  10. Greg

    The Forgotten Son Supporter

    It was more based on the line “Obiwan once thought as you do” from ROTJ.

    I mean, Andor is fleshing out the lore of the rebellion as much as it is Andor and Mothma. It’s very much subservient to Rogue One which constantly reminds the audience of Star Wars things from the OG trilogy. They literally have a special shot for blue milk. Andor sure did have a vision, but that vision included how it all would lead to Rogue One. As much as Gilroy said he changed canon for Mothma’s speech, it still absolutely fits with the Rebels episode that happens right after ep9.

    Andor is brilliant and easily the best of the live action shows. But it still serves and fits in the greater story of Star Wars.
     
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  11. aoftbsten

    Prestigious Supporter

    Right, but what I’m saying is that the other shows seem to prioritize lore over characters and story. Andor obviously is a prequel to a prequel so it’s filling gaps, but it did so in a way that doesn’t feel like watching a wookiepedia article manifest. This is a blanket statement and I’m not saying those shows don’t have their moments or that I didn’t enjoy them, but the approach was different for Andor and it shows up on screen.
     
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  12. Michael Belt

    metadata incarnate Supporter

    random Andor-related question as i just finished up the Onderon arc in TCW S5. is there a canon explanation as to why Saw Gerrera's accent is so different between TCW/Bad Batch and Rebels/Andor/Rogue One? i know Forest Whitaker voices/plays him in the latter set of projects while another actor has a more American-sounding accent in the former set, so externally i just chalked it up to differences in performance, but idk if they explain it at all in story
     
  13. It’s just different actors
     
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  14. Michael Belt

    metadata incarnate Supporter

    i know that, but they've previously gone out of their way to have some sort of explanation/connective tissue to provide an in-universe explanation for these kinds of things (iirc I think they even change one of his eyes to a different color in one of the animated shows to get closer to Forest's portrayal). doesn't take away from the show or anything, but it's interesting just how different the character sounds between projects.
     
  15. Bigger whiplash is when Tim curry voices palpatine because the original voice actor died
     
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  16. Michael Belt

    metadata incarnate Supporter

    you learn something new every day
     
  17. BlueEyesBrewing

    Trusted Supporter

    based on this new season of Andor you could imply that the reason his voice changes is because of huffing rhydonium for years
     
  18. JRShoenberger

    there is one way out

    Yeah, just use a headcannon that it's an effect of the rhydonium.
     
  19. Michael Belt

    metadata incarnate Supporter


    the club mix by itself is finally on streaming. need them to press a 12 inch extended mix at some point
     
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  20. Halitosis Jones

    Mr. Jones, the one from the Counting Crows song Supporter

    Josh is watching Andor again
     
  21. Greg

    The Forgotten Son Supporter

  22. FlayedManOfSF

    Trusted

    Never tell me the odds.
     
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  23. JoshIsMediocre

    peak middle management Moderator

    I finally caught up!!! Watching Rogue One now
     
  24. JoshIsMediocre

    peak middle management Moderator

    Rogue One definitely feels worse after Andor
     
  25. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    bro watches one episode
     
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