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Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by Wharf Rat, Mar 6, 2016.

  1. Wharf Rat

    I know a little something you won't ever know Prestigious

    Fetonte released an absolutely unhinged statement in which he, among other things, sounds like an 80 year old trump supporter attacking fake news from the college internet coffee shop know it alls. he also says that the south african police union is good


    South Africa's police log of brutality
     
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  2. Wharf Rat

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  3. Wharf Rat

    I know a little something you won't ever know Prestigious

    it IS cool that fetonte is aggressively anti-gamer. thats hilarious
     
  4. Dominick

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  5. Wharf Rat

    I know a little something you won't ever know Prestigious

    Searching "fetonte" on twitter is real fun




     
  6. Our Two Dads

    starring Danny Fetonte and Bill Mitchell
     
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  7. Dominick

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  8. Wharf Rat

    I know a little something you won't ever know Prestigious

    Has anyone read any of Lars Lih's work on re-interpreting "What Is To Be Done?"
     
  9. Dominick

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    I've read it.
     
  10. Wharf Rat

    I know a little something you won't ever know Prestigious

    All 800 pages? Whatd you think?
     
  11. Dominick

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    I thought it was really good at putting Lenin's thought at the time into context, i.e., within the mainstream of social democrats at the time and not espousing some authoritarian theory.
     
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  12. Wharf Rat

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    Yeah I originally learned it as a major departure from orthodox Marxism and it's interesting how that conception basically comes from only reading the manifesto and WITBD without enough European context
     
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  14. Wharf Rat

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    Here's a sort of takedown of Lih that afaict more or less reflects the opinion of non-cold warrior academics on the subject

    The Real Vladimir Lenin
     
  15. MexicanGuitars

    Chorus’ Expert on OTIP Track #8 Supporter

    Far From Seamless: a workers' inquiry at Deliveroo - Viewpoint Magazine

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  16. finnyscott

    I'm from New York. No, not the city.

    The good thing about being on a metro for ~two hours a day is I'll have time to read the mountain of articles and books that have been recommended here. I'll definitely be asking questions.

    Also just a quick shoutout to everyone in this thread who's giving really good explanations and resources. Really appreciated.
     
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  17. Marx&Recreation

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    So there's been a ton written about the 1917 revolution this past year, but I'm curious if anyone knows of some good stuff to check out that focuses on the years/decades following October, basically what it was like when Lenin was still alive, how it industrialized/developed and became more bureaucratized, how/why its policies changed over time, etc. I guess just some generally broad histories from at least the revolution to WW2 which I can then use to pick out what figures/events/groups I find most interesting and go from there
     
  18. Wharf Rat

    I know a little something you won't ever know Prestigious

    I've recently had a bunch of Soviet history works recommended to me, none of them really fit your ask of a general history in that period but maybe you'll wanna read one of them or can find a different one by a related author or something. Most of these are academic works of history I think.

    Isaac Deutcher's bio of Trotsky is legendary, and Marcel Liebman's Leninism Under Lenin has been compared to it. Moshe Lewin's Lenin's Last Struggle is about the political struggle post-revolution and how it shaped the rising bureaucracy of the USSR. Alexander Rabinowitch's The Bolsheviks in Power is about a similar time period, concerned with the origins of Soviet authoritarianism in the first year after the revolution. Rabinowitch also has a great book called Prelude to Revolution that I've actually read some of for class that goes into the leadup.
     
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  19. Marx&Recreation

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    In looking for books I actually came across a different Moshe Lewin work - "The Soviet Century" - that seems to be more what I'm looking for, though it extends throughout the whole history of the USSR

    And I have Rabinowitch's "The Bolsheviks Come to Power," and so I had heard of the "sequel" but it seems to be limited to the first year, so yeah that pushed me away from it.

    Thanks tho, I'm adding all of those to my list
     
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  20. OdranWaldo

    Brendan Rodgers Young Team Prestigious

    i'm about to go back to the revolution betrayed by trotsky
     
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    who renamed the thread? i've been wanting that for a while. title makes more sense haha
     
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  23. Malatesta

    i may get better but we won't ever get well Prestigious

    opinion: title the thread "far leftist thread"
     
  24. title it Horseshoe Theory: The Thread
     
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