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Alkaline Trio Band • Page 163

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by Melody Bot, Jan 12, 2016.

  1. Anthony_

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    quote me one post in here where someone said Skiba is a racist
     
  2. Jbent

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    Also this is asinine
     
  3. Anthony_

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    All these false narratives meant to distract from the central point here are so transparently being done to sensationalize and mischaracterize people's rhetoric in order to make it seem unreasonable or ridiculous.

    Nobody has said Skiba is a racist.

    Nobody has said Skiba is a Nazi.

    Skiba is good friends with at least one Nazi, such good friends with him that he featured that Nazi friend on an Alkaline Trio song, and has never expressed remorse or apologized for it. That in and of itself is bad and worthy of criticism.

    And that's not even getting into the gross Asia Argento stuff.
     
  4. Furry Werthers

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    Feelin' good about my choice to like Dan more all those years back lol
     
  5. Jbent

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    Kind of breezed by this but, yeah I can see now how that could have went over your head I apologize
     
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  6. .K.

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    There has been so much you could dislike from Matt for years. That said, people don’t need to create narratives or feed his need for attention/immaturity.
     
  7. OhTheWater

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    Ah yes, we are wrong for feeding into his need for attention
     
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  8. Furry Werthers

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    lmao
     
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  9. .K.

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    That’s still an insult haha. Went over my head? Maybe your point just wasn’t clear either. Appreciate the apology and there’s really no need for an argument. I think the point of these threads is discussion. Some discussion is naturally going to have disagreement.
     
  10. OhTheWater

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    .k. Who has everyone on the site blocked: what we need is more discussion!
     
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  11. .K.

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    Dan chooses to work and be friends with Matt though and continues to be in the Trio. I just think Dan is the more down to earth guy in that band. Matt and Derek just always seemed more into creating the “image”.
     
  12. Furry Werthers

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    K.
     
  13. OhTheWater

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    .k.: Perfect, we've been sitting here talking all day and you all never bothered to learn my name. We're all so buried in our phones. Instead of giving somebody a real smile, we send an emoji. If I was a big ol guy with a big burly white beard, would you still be yelling at me?? Or would you be spanking my bare butt, balls and back?
     
  14. Jbent

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    Tbh .k I am sorry if you feel I'm insulting you personally, I am not. However I do find your general points and seemingly anti-willingness to take into consideration a music guy you like may be into some harmful shit and then scoffing at it as a mob-like attack or victimization to be a bit frustrating



    It must be confusing when a site most of us frequent posts a glowing retrospective on from here to infirmary though, so no hard feelings
     
  15. .K.

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    Now the condescending tone as though I’m a confused child.

    This could be a more productive conversation if you wanted it to be. I just want people to be judged accurately for the things they’ve done (good and bad).
     
  16. Jbent

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    You "welcomed me to reply and disagree" with your actual opinions, which I have specifically replied to multiple times and you've never acknowledged to this point.


    But you keep deflecting by saying I'm insulting you, and that the tone of my text letters from my cell phone keyboard is not cool with you or w.e it is you're trying to say
     
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  17. Furry Werthers

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    How exactly do you know if it's accurate or not? Are you Mr. Skiba? lol
     
  18. Anthony_

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    you're wasting your time with that one, believe me
     
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  19. Jbent

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    & the idea I won't engage in a productive online conversation with noted fingers-driven-into-earholes chorus.fm user .k is, well you just never know what's in store for you when you wake up every morning
     
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  20. [removed]

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    And to think I paid real money to be here lol
     
  21. Jbent

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    In a genuine attempt to engage you .k please elaborate on your thoughts and words here
     
  22. .K.

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    definitely not hahaha. I just wouldn’t use his Instagram as my only source.

    One person calls him racist because his interest in Nazi culture. The next person brings up his friendship with Mike Park and Asian Man records (and I brought up him working with Steve Aoki recently).

    There’s actual a lot people could complain with about Matt. His first Sekrets album art and tour, his Church of Satan 666 gimmick. It’s just forgotten and ignored...and if you going to attack someone’s character include all the stuff. But I also don’t think Dan, Mark, Mr Brett, Fat Mike and a bunch of the other people he’s associated with would tolerate his antics if there wasn’t some redeeming human qualities there. Doesn’t mean he’s not an idiot at times or likes the attention (which has been a thing for a long time).
     
  23. Jbent

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    Makes sense
     
  24. Furry Werthers

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    Woof.

    Opening with "he can't harbor racist inclinations, he has an Asian friend!" was a choice.
     
  25. .K.

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    Matt’s unlikable qualities are not new. I’d say the complaining has ramped up since blink and I think the potential that Tom fans pushing that isn’t crazy. I’ve even heard and interviewer try and seem to generate some friction between Matt and Tom after he joined the band and Matt had no part of it.