Remove ads, unlock a dark mode theme, and get other perks by upgrading your account. Experience the website the way it's meant to be.

Alkaline Trio – Crimson

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Melody Bot, May 23, 2025.

  1. Melody Bot

    Your friendly little forum bot. Staff Member

    This article has been imported from chorus.fm for discussion. All of the forum rules still apply.

    Crimson had all the makings of a big rock record. It had great production (courtesy of Jerry Finn), larger than life art and imagery in the music videos and record packaging, a great narrative throughout the album, and improved songwriting from Alkaline Trio. So it comes as a bit of a surprise that this classic record didn’t get certified as gold by the RIAA. Crimson was the fifth studio album from Alkaline Trio, and would be the last time that the band would work with Jerry Finn before he passed away in 2008. The set would spawn three singles in “Time To Waste”, “Burn”, and “Mercy Me” and the album is still adored by many Alkaline Trio fans and even casual fans who got wind of the music through compilations and more. The album was recorded at Conway Studios in Los Angeles, California and even had an early album title of Church and Destroy. The band would continue to gain a loyal following of fans in key support tours with My Chemical Romance, Rise Against and others during the promotional period of Crimson. The LP still holds up to this day with its slick songwriting, big hooks, and a stellar vocal performance from Matt Skiba.

    The album sets off with an eerie piano sound on the lead single of “Time To Waste” that builds up to a pulsating bass line from Dan Andriano before Skiba adds his vocal croon to the opening lyrics of, “There’s someone down below blowing you a kiss / They watch from their windows / As all arms fall to their sides, and all eyes fix / On the death of tomorrow / And you found everything you need / To make a life complete / Completely revolting, and they have safety and relief / For sale up the street / I see you in line every day.” Skiba remains captivating in his delivery of this rich lyrical poetry and the band rallies around his every word. “The Poison” follows with a spiraling riff from Skiba, while Andriano takes the lead vocal duties on this track with veteran ease. The speedy punk rock track accelerates to the finish line, while drummer Derek Grant adds in some nice fills.

    ”Burn” was a key single from the set that slow-builds to the chorus over some unique synths, production tricks/elements, and heavy riffing by Skiba. The chorus of, “Intending to burn, pretending to fight it / Everyone learns faster on fire / Things took a turn, lost all desire / You live and you burn,” is well-constructed and showcased the continued improvements in Alkaline Trio’s songwriting craft. “Mercy Me” was the second single to be released from the album and it features a steady beat from Grant while Skiba and Andriano carefully croon and harmonize together over the mix in a style that would make bands like The Cure proud.

    The middle section of the record never sags under its own weight with great deep cuts like “Dethbed” that invites audience participation, while “Settle for Satin” is largely built around the unique guitar riff from Skiba to set the tone of the song. “Sadie” was one of the first songs the band for Crimson, and as Skiba recalls, “We were still touring on our previous record and I wrote it just on tour. We started playing it at soundcheck and we had planned to do this split with One Man Army at BYO. That’s where that song came from originally. But we knew even then that we were probably wanting to re-record it and putting it on an album, which it was on Crimson later. So yeah, I think that came from knowing that we were starting to write a new record and wanting to take a different approach. As I said before, you don’t ever want to write the same record twice. So yeah, I think it was just a fresh start and it just had a different kind of feel and sort of set the tone for Crimson, not that there is other songs like it on the record.” The band’s unique approach to Crimson pays off widely on songs like this.

    ”Fall Victim” gets back to the speedy punk rock that dominated the sound of Alkaline Trio in their early years, and the band has no trouble keeping up with the uptempo track. “I Was A Prayer” was the only song that I didn’t really connect with on my re-listen to Crimson, but the band regains my interest strongly on “Prevent This Tragedy.” It’s on this latter song that Alkaline Trio were beginning to truly understand what made their band unique, and they went full in on this vibe.

    ”Back To Hell” is the logical sister-song to “Fall Victim,” but it never feels out of place in the sequencing. The band knows just when they need an up-tempo song to prevent the listening experience from feeling monotonous. The closing duo of the great “Your Neck” and “Smoke” rounds out Crimson in the best way to the finish line. On “Your Neck,” Alkaline Trio admit on the opening chorus, “We’re the things that go bump in the night that you can’t see / Yeah, we’re the mishaps that always happen in threes / This ain’t no rocket science, no big mystery / Why the light of day that’s shown to us / Is absolutely meaningless to me.” “Smoke” is a unique closer, with its eerie vibe and sweeping synths. Andriano admitted, “For the two years before we recorded it, I had been kind of toiling over this. It was kind of the bane of my writing existence. It scared me, because I knew I liked parts of it but was really unhappy with other parts. I couldn’t make the vibe work.” The song does a sound a bit out of place, so maybe that’s why Alkaline Trio felt like it made the most sense to tack it to the end of the record as a bit of symbolism for uncertainty of where they would take their sound next.

    Crimson remains a hard-hitting record that is rich in lyrical imagery, great harmonized vocals between the vocalists, while leaving just the right amount of allure/mystery as to what the band were singing about. It’s really hard to believe that this album has turned 20 years old, as it still feels remarkably fresh today.

    more

    Not all embedded content is displayed here. You can view the original to see embedded videos and other embedded content.
     
  2. Pepetito

    Trusted Supporter

    Their last great album.
     
    punkrocksta likes this.
  3. WadeCastle

    Trusted Supporter

    what about remains ;)
     
  4. insane takes up in here I see
     
  5. cricketandclover

    Trusted

    They made a top-tier album in 2018.
     
  6. And 2024.
     
  7. popdisaster00

    On my way to better things Moderator

    Honestly sucks that you’re not enjoying their output since then lol, you’re missing out
     
  8. Zachary Dresch

    Trusted Supporter

    While my personal favorite Trio album is From Here to Infirmary, they have a crazy consistent catalogue and there’s a reason they’re in my top 5 favorite bands. That being said, Crimson was my intro to the band thanks to Fuse and I’ve been a major fan ever since.
     
    orangehorizon, paythetab and Paulms85 like this.
  9. Paulms85

    Regular Supporter

    Great write up. Always felt an underappreciated album for me, this is up there with everything else from 2005/6.
     
    paythetab and Zachary Dresch like this.
  10. cricketandclover

    Trusted

    I like BHE less than Cursed for sure, but there are still really good songs on it. Really awesome to see them still releasing high-quality material this far into a career.
     
  11. shibbee

    Regular

    My third least favorite album of theirs.
     
  12. JRGComedy

    Trusted Supporter

    Crimson is middle of the pack for me, but I still love it and think it has incredible songs.
     
    paythetab likes this.
  13. pbueddi

    Trusted

    Agony & Irony is still on of my favorites.
     
  14. whiterussian

    Regular Supporter

    Will always be The A3 album for me, as my first one , although I also love Agony & Irony which has a clearer production and just the best sounding drums.

    Mercy Me is one of my life soundtrack songs.
    A few killer Dan songs that deserved to be singles (ain't that always the case though): I was a Prayer or The Poison.
    Time to Waste a blast to play on the drums.
     
    BornToRun, paythetab and Paulms85 like this.
  15. David87

    Prestigious Prestigious

    Oh wow didn't realize yesterday was the 20 year anniversary. This was my first album cycle as a fan. I had known Goodbye Forever and I Lied My Face Off, and then got Good Mourning some months after it came out. By the time this album cycle was going, I was a member of the Blood Pact and seeing all the different videos they put out for this album and tour were so fun. My favorite was the video from when they played DFW and they misquoted some fan saying "D-F-Dub" as "Dib dub" and then used it as a joke throughout the entire video lol

    This album when first released was probably my favorite, even over Good Mourning for a time, before me overplaying it and future releases drove it down my list. But the 4 album run of FHTI-GM-Crimson-A&I is up there with album runs for me. I loved how they leaned into the glammy-goth look and sound on this album after the more macabre feel of GM. I also loved that all the fan clamoring for more dual vocal songs seemed to register with them and it felt like they purposefully put that to use on this album because of it lol.

    Your Neck and Fall Victim were always the two weak points on this album for me. Prevent This Tragedy is a step above them for me but a step below the rest of the album. Dan absolutely crushes it on this album, with my favorite lyric being the otury to I Was A Prayer--I open up like the back of a book/I ruin everything with just a quick look/And I settle down like a rocket explodes/Hit the ground but how far out who knows....And I love the 2nd verse of that song as well lyrically.
     
    paythetab, whiterussian and Paulms85 like this.
  16. dorfmac

    Trusted

    Alk3 was definitely my favorite band for a period of time during the early 00s. I’ll always prefer the more raw sounds of goddamnit and st, but crimson marked the end of my love affair with them. I’ve enjoyed releases since, but I think it’s more that I’ve grown up and away than their output dropping significantly in quality
     
  17. popdisaster00

    On my way to better things Moderator

    Between Alkaline, the Sekrets, and Blink, Skiba has been pretty damn prolific these last 25 years.
     
    orangehorizon, paythetab and dorfmac like this.
  18. razorburn

    Trusted

  19. jackyjackyjack

    Regular

    I have a soft spot for this one because Time to Waste was the first ever song I heard by Trio, this was my first album (and then I worked my way back through their older albums at the time) but I've been with them ever since
     
    paythetab likes this.
  20. DooDooBird

    Trusted

    I've always felt that this is the essential AK3 album.
     
    punkrocksta and Pepetito like this.
  21. Pepetito

    Trusted Supporter

    It does indeed.
     
  22. Pepetito

    Trusted Supporter

  23. Timberwolf

    Newbie

    Got some great tunes on it but think it's a step down from their incredible run leading up to it. 2nd half of the album is defo weaker than the first.

    Crimson is better than most of the albums that came after it, but I'd comfortably put BH&E ahead of it - that's a genuinely top tier trio album in my eyes. Easily their best since Good Mourning and one of their most tight and consistent ever.
     
    JRGComedy likes this.