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Alice Glass Details Alleged Abuse By Former Crystal Castles Bandmate

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  1. Melody Bot

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    Alice Glass, formerly of Crystal Castles, has released a statement detailing abuse by her former bandmate. The full statement is below.

    Some of you may be aware that I’ve opened up about my experiences with abuse in the past. I’ve been very guarded about the information I’ve given and I haven’t publicly named names—because I’ve been afraid. I’ve been threatened and harassed and as a result, out of fear, I’ve been silenced.

    The momentum that’s been created recently by the many courageous women who have opened up about their own stories has inspired me to finally be more direct, at whatever cost. This is for my own recovery, for the other women who have been, are currently, or may be in a similar situation with the man who abused me for years, and for those in abusive relationships who are looking to stand up and speak out.

    I met “Ethan Kath” (Claudio Palmieri) when I was in the 10th grade. The first time he took advantage of me was when I was around 15. He was 10 years older than me. I came to in the back of his car extremely intoxicated (from drinks he had given me that night). We didn’t talk for months after that. He went to great lengths to find me again, stalking me and driving past my high school looking for me.

    He tracked me down and showed up places I was hanging out and we eventually reconnected. I was very young and naive and in a compromised position in my life. I perceived him as a local rock star because I had seen his band, Kill Cheerleader, on TV. A lot of my friends from the punk scene had also been taken advantage of by much older men, so to me, it was a situation that had been normalized.

    Claudio was very manipulative towards me. He figured out my insecurities and exploited them: he used the things he learned about me against me. Over a period of many months, he gave me drugs and alcohol and had sex with me in an abandoned room at an apartment he managed. It wasn’t always consensual and he remained sober whenever we were together.

    When I was 16 or 17 he gave me a CD of songs and asked me to write and sing over them. I took the songs home and wrote lyrics and melodies and we recorded the tracks I liked. But even with music, he created a toxic environment that I often felt I had to go along with. While recording our first EP, the recording engineer sexually harassed me while we were in the studio. Claudio laughed at me and pressured me to go along with it. He called our first single “Alice Practice” and said my vocals were a mic test. He concocted that story and told press it was an “accidental” recording, intentionally diminishing my role in its creation. It was another way of putting me down and preying on my insecurities.

    Soon after, we were invited to tour the UK. I was overwhelmed by how quickly things were happening for us, and Claudio convinced me to drop out of high school only 2 credits away from graduation. As we started to gain attention, he began abusively and systematically targeting my insecurities and controlling my behavior: my eating habits, who I could talk to, where I could go, what I could say in public, what I was allowed to wear. He kept me from doing interviews or photoshoots unless he was in control of the situation. Our fame grew in Crystal Castles but he didn’t feel he was getting the recognition he thought he deserved.

    He became physically abusive. He held me over a staircase and threatened to throw me down it. He picked me up over his shoulders and threw me onto concrete. He took pictures of my bruises and posted them online. I tried to leave, and he swore that it would never happen again, that he would never physically abuse me again. More severe psychological and emotional abuse took its place.

    He controlled everything I did. I wasn’t allowed to have my own phone or my own credit card, he decided who my friends were, read through my private emails, restricted my access to social media, regulated everything I ate. He berated me and yelled at me, telling me that I was a joke, that all the people that came to our shows were only interested in his instrumentals and that I was ruining the band. He broke glass shower doors to frighten me, he locked me into rooms. He told me that my feminism made me a target for rapists and only he could protect me. He forced me to have sex with him or, he said, I wouldn’t be allowed to be in the band anymore.

    I was miserable and my lyrics indirectly spoke to the pain and oppression that I was enduring. But as is sometimes the case in abusive relationships, his cruelty was often followed by kindness. He was very good at keeping his terrible treatment of me private. He was charming sometimes, he was hyper protective and most of all I loved the band we had together. But he often told me how replaceable I was. He’d even tell me that he was actively looking for someone to replace me. He kept me insecure and on edge, and then would tell me that he was the only one it the world that believed in me. He told me it was us against everyone, because everyone else thought I was a loser, a joke, a talentless dancing clown. I believed him. I was suicidal for years.

    Leaving Crystal Castles was the single most difficult decision I’ve ever made—that band was everything to me. My music, my performances and my fans were all I had in the world. I gave that up and started over not because I wanted to but because I had to. As difficult as it was, I knew that leaving was one of the best decisions I’ve ever made. It has taken me years to recover from enduring almost a decade of abuse, manipulation and psychological control. I am still recovering.

  2. CyberInferno

    Line below my username Supporter

    Such despicable behavior. I can't even (nor do I want to be able to) fathom how someone would take advantage of another human being, a kid, like this. It gives me chills.

    I deeply hope that these expressions are cathartic in a way for the victims, that the perpetrators get what they deserve, and that raising awareness of these issues that are all-too-often swept under the rug will help remove any sigmas associated with them and serve as a detractor for any would-be perpetrators.
  3. Jonathan

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Verified

  4. SmithBerryCrunch

    Trusted Prestigious

    Horrible stuff.

    Just saw that one of the local venues here just cancelled their show.
    fenway89 likes this.
  5. Kellan

    @kellanthomas Prestigious

    Chicago show cancelled.
  6. skogsraet

    Trusted Supporter

    Who’s cancelling, the venues or the band?
  7. Kellan

    @kellanthomas Prestigious

    It's worth noting that someone who *apparently* is Alice's sister claims she's CURRENTLY in an abusive relationship, with Jupiter Keyes who is one of her touring musicians.

    Really fucked one way or another.
  8. SmithBerryCrunch

    Trusted Prestigious

    Venue cancelled the show in my city.
    skogsraet likes this.
  9. Kiana

    Goddamn, man child Prestigious

    She has demonstrated so much strength. When someone is making you question everything in your world and squashes any hope, self-esteem, or positivity in your life it is incredibly difficult to try and put the pieces back together and begin to feel safe and stable. Wish her all the best in the world.
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  10. personalmaps Oct 25, 2017
    (Last edited: Oct 25, 2017)

    citrus & cinnamon Prestigious

    It's worth noting that Ethan Kath apparently ALSO married an Alice Glass cosplayer who he also met when she was fifteen.

    Ethan Kath married with Au Vyst, former cosplayer of Alice Glass.

    This dude is gross and reading this is harrowing. Much love to Alice for speaking out against it after all this time. "Stilbirth" is still such an incredible, cathartic song.

    edit: w/r/t that reddit thread, no one gets to decide that someone else's situation wasn't actually abusive because someone was nice to them on tour. abusers aren't abusive to every person they meet, it's how they get away with it.
  11. justin.

    請叫我賴總統 Supporter

    Good thing I never supported this band when they would come to town.
  12. Jared Luttrell


    Wow that's horrible.
  13. Malatesta

    i may get better but we won't ever get well Prestigious

    gotta love women being unable to trust literally any man
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  14. KyleK

    Let's get these people moving faster! Supporter

    The tribalism when it comes to bands people like, or athletes and other celebrities for that matter is insane to me. That people give the benefit of the doubt and defend complete strangers against allegations like this is disgusting and so disheartening.

    Accusers (victims) don't want the attention that comes with going public, especially considering the despicable backlash they receive, but thankfully are courageous enough to bring it to light, and to so readily jump to the conclusion they're making it up to receive attention to defend someone they don't even know personally still blows my mind, no matter how often I see it happen.
    kaylasananjou and skogsraet like this.
  15. personalmaps

    citrus & cinnamon Prestigious

    It’s so ridiculous. Literally a simple google search on statistics should be enough to prove it to anyone. But statistics don’t matter when it’s women telling their truth in a society steeped in toxic masculinity. All we can do is continue to amplify the voices of victims and hope that the fight is turning the tide.
    skogsraet likes this.