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Accountability in Music • Page 975

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by OhTheWater, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. Dinkleberg

    go birds Supporter

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  2. fourstarters

    John // OC now, OH forever.

    It's a damn shame their name is too generic or I'd suggest treating it like a curse word and censoring it to really annoy people.
     
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  3. wisdomfordebris

    Moderator Moderator

    Or have it called “My Feelings Are More Important Than The Victims’” and pin it to the last page so that users have to search that whenever they want to talk about the band.
     
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  4. OhTheWater

    Let it run Supporter

    Also anti-banning/threadbanning them. If they wanna show their ass online let them keep going until they slink away in shame
     
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  5. digitalsea

    hate my favorite band

    This is very relevant.

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  6. koryoreo

    Trusted Supporter

    Surprised the venue in Portland didn’t shut down comments on Facebook ads for the BN show. It’s all people talking shit on the band which is pretty great to see.
     
  7. TuneYouOut

    Newbie Supporter

    I love this thread when there's info and useful conversation but I regret being subscribed when it's redundant dog piling and tail chasing of "fuck that guy". Like obviously fuck that guy! If 2 other people told a bad poster they suck the rest of you aren't finding a better way to do it pals. Move on, I beg.
     
  8. JoshIsMediocre

    chorus's #1 oklahoma city comets fan Moderator

    Inaccurate username here
     
  9. Dinkleberg

    go birds Supporter

    Gotta be honest, I will gladly take people dog piling on losers in here over people sharing the next sinister thing Sean Combs did as if the first several sinister things were not enough
     
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  10. TuneYouOut

    Newbie Supporter

  11. JoshIsMediocre

    chorus's #1 oklahoma city comets fan Moderator

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  12. Greg

    The Forgotten Son Supporter

    I disagree.

    I got told i had my best post by chiming in a little late.
     
  13. TuneYouOut

    Newbie Supporter

    I'm not wishing for bad shit to happen for the sake of posts, for the record. No posts is the absolute best case scenario for this thread.
     
  14. Dinkleberg

    go birds Supporter

    I was not suggesting that you are
     
  15. digitalsea

    hate my favorite band

    My breaking point was when I found out Jesse Lacey was a pedophile and groomed multiple young girls.
     
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  16. fourstarters

    John // OC now, OH forever.

    I'm all for a lil' dogpile action, but I'm super ticklish and don't want to invade anyone's personal space.
     
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  17. St. Nate

    LGBTQ Supporter (Lets Go Bomb TelAviv Quickly) Prestigious

    If they do, their site should have a dark mode
     
  18. TuneYouOut

    Newbie Supporter

    Being useful in the only 2 threads on the internet I know of with consistently good info and takes versus being chatty and highfiving dunks is my incredibly annoying preference :-)
     
  19. ImAMetaphor

    one with the riverbed Prestigious

    continuing to dunk on people who have already had their ass handed to them is a little silly but also it’s the internet so does it really matter
     
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  20. digitalsea

    hate my favorite band

    I say let people blow off some steam as a little treat.
     
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  21. ImAMetaphor

    one with the riverbed Prestigious

    also, like, it would be one thing if someone i know personally and cared about wanted to talk about this shit with “nuance” or whatever. i don’t have that kind of time for strangers in a forum. i usually keep my mouth shut these days because i know others have it covered, but yeah, not a whole lot of sympathy for people who want to very publicly talk about how it hurts their feelings to be called out for their shitty opinions. and that’s coming from someone with my fair share of shitty opinions, lol.
     
  22. Blink182Bouncer

    Trusted

    I think people who defend Brand New on here don't do it in spite of the backlash they get, but because of it. They want to feel absolved of guilt, but they know they can't justify their decision to support Jesse Lacey. So if they get everyone on the thread to dunk on them and call them names, they get to feel like a rational measured victim being bullied by all these radical cancel culture warriors. (hence why the "i'm just asking questions" refrain is so popular)

    I know the relationship people have with music is so intense and sacred that it reaches beyond the logical part of the brain. So when an artist you like breaches your trust, there's an understandable impulse to cling to the "denial" stage of grief. But the only way to get to the "acceptance" stage of grief is to sit down and sincerely attempt to "separate the art from the artist," which is to understand that just because you enjoy a piece of art, it doesn't make you a bad person nor does it make the artist a good person. It's just art, and the values you devrive from it are your own.

    But the issue is that a concert environment is not a value-neutral showcase of art. The stage is where we celebrate an artist, where idolization is fostered. You can not "separate the art from the artist" in a live music setting, because live music is where we form community and express our values.

    That's where we get this cognitive dissonance, where people want to pretend the things HE ADMITTED TO aren't that bad, because they still want carte blanche to idolize him, while still pretending to "separate the art from the artist".
     
  23. Tata Toothy

    Regular

    lol this comment section is too funny. Brand new is a business. They don’t give a rat ass about anyone’s feelings. Just like every major business in this country. They care about money not your opinion. Boycott do whatever makes you happy but as long as it’s profitable they aren’t leaving.
     
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  24. Penlab

    Prestigious Supporter

    Oh my God, it's a never ending assembly line of chucklefucks.

    WHY ARE PEOPLE LIKE THIS.
     
  25. Fucking Dustin

    "Dustin’s correct" - Randall Supporter

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