Accountability in Music • Page 639

is he the one mac filmed or whatever?

 

different dude, at the very least Mac has a lot of scummy friends

 

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edit: was in response to a now-deleted post

 

Front Bottoms are doing their Champagne Jam this year with Piebald...they never said anything about the allegations surrounding them, did they (edit: Piebald, that is)?

Laura Stevenson and Sydney Sprague as openers too, which stinks.

 

Front Bottoms are in sort of a Pinegrove-esque situation where they made a statement that seemed to address what happened but it turns out they lied in that statement because they knew about the allegations earlier than they claimed to and also took dude with the allegations out on a whole tour with them before actually kicking him out of the band.

So unless people know the full story they probably think the Front Bottoms are ok.

 

I meant Piebald, there was a horrible story about them that came out a few years back

 

The Piebald allegations.

Looks like it never really got any attention which is unfortunate. Jesus.

 

oh, yikes

 

Really disappointing, seems like nothing is happening to either band and people still don't really know

 

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Oh wow I had no idea Conley has allegations

 

didn't know there were eleven allegations after the fact

 

Yeah I hadn't seen/heard more than the one woman posting their text and phone exchanges, yikes

 

Oh Jim.

 

again, i doubt he knows lol. he’s even more disconnected from that scene of music than phoebe.

 

(Or following people in the scene who made tweets about the situation, but you would have had to have been actively following those people circa September 2018)

A better solution would be instead of just posting that here, sending Jim a message and letting him know the most recent developments re: Pinegrove. It's not fair to call out someone who doesn't even know they're supporting someone who is still problematic.

 

In before: BuT hE cOuLd JuSt GoOgLe ThEm!

Not everyone knows every bad thing a musician’s done, nor looks into it when a song pops up on a playlist and you’re like “sweet! I dig this! *added*”.

 

I think everyone in here knows my position on Pinegrove so I have to say: at this point, in 2021, what do we really want anymore? At this point they’re rehabbed in the public eye and people like Phoebe and Jim are going to see it that way. The situation was never meant to be public and was made so against everyone’s wishes and unless you follow exactly the right people you’re not going to know how to feel about that Pitchfork piece. I don’t like Evan, I don’t listen to Pinegrove, but continuing to talk about him just feels like yelling into the void in a way that is more frustrating than productive and yelling at people who do listen to them feels pointless

 

I know this thread has problems with off topic / out of touch posts, so I apologize if this derails the thread or misses the point of it, but I just wanted to say that after having a good night out with friends, I was scrolling Instagram and forgot that I was still following Mike Sapone cuz his posts don't really show up to me, and he posted about the anniversary of BN's TDAG and man that really took me by surprise and made me feel down. I hate that I put so much emotional stock into that band and that album; it still has undeniable influence over my songwriting even today. I've been able to phase the band out of my listenings and take a more productive approach to my songwriting (ie, although my style is inspired by them, I want to write an album that will surpass the love I had for that now tainted work of art and completely replace them from my mind), it was such an unexpected suckerpunch to see it being celebrated whilst I was in my comfort zone. Ugh.

Again, sorry if this isn't the right place for this; I just wanted a place to let my frustration out. It's so incredibly tone deaf of him to even celebrate publically if at all.

 

on one hand, it's probably the album he's most known for in his career, and he isn't a band member and shouldn't be held to the same standard as band member's for culpability for covering stuff up or whatever, but at the same time, yeah, I've seen a weird amount of brand new talk this weekend and it always makes me feel gross.

 

An update / turn in the Brody Dalle & Josh Homme situation.

 

^ I've never heard of them even being together, let alone having a divorce and issues that stem from that.

Correct me, cause I don't know any other details other than the link posted, but whats the issue outside an emotional divorce situation?

 

Brody Dalle filed a restraining order against Homme along with ones on behalf of their kids accusing him of being verbally and physically abusive. Homme denied the claims and that Dalle was lying. There have been a quite a few ongoing court battles between the two of them which has lead us here.