Accountability in Music • Page 376

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by OhTheWater, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. PatRFinley

    Early Onset Grump LFGM Supporter

    Sorry my post wasn't supposed to be directed at anyone, I'm just disappointed.
     
  2. Saephon

    Regular

    Just wanted to chime in here and say that as someone who unintentionally took a break from reading these forums for a while (no specific reason, I just sort of fell out of music discussion sites for a long time); coming here as someone who only knows of the initial Pinegrove situation and nothing else beyond it.... it's very difficult to arm myself with the knowledge that apparently only the users here have.

    I'm still trying to educate myself, but beyond manually searching through a 376 page thread, it feels like an uphill battle. Not criticizing anyone or anything, just wanted to affirm the night and day difference between discussion here and...well, everywhere else. As angry as you might be at people who don't come here and how they can support an artist, I very humbly suggest taking just a second to remind yourself that it's really hard to know everything going on all the time, and people make choices based on the information available to them. Staying informed is a full time job, and I do try, but when life is already busy and stressful, it's tough.
     
  3. KalValor

    Regular Supporter

  4. Cameron

    FKA nowFace Prestigious

    I’ve been following the Scientology/Masterson thing for a bit, and it’s completely crazy. Cedric and his family must be terrified.
     
  5. Carrow

    Japanese Bonus Track

    Seeing that Pinegrove are playing two nights in Dublin and have sold out the first just bums me the fuck out. The narrative has been rewritten and the fact they took a year off has apparently redeemed them in most people's eyes. Shit sucks.
     
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  6. soundclash

    Newbie

    Just getting caught up on this thread and I can’t believe I didn’t realize Halsey used the BN sample. I thought the backlash would’ve been the almost-lyrics of theirs she used (“wish I could see what it’s like to be the blood in my veins”). But she also used lyrics from “Cry Me a River” so there’s two samples/interpolations/whatever music term from gross men. Not a good look from someone who should absolutely know better.
     
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  7. DarkHotline

    Bringing You Love Prestigious

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  8. bennjeff

    Regular

    It’s weird to me that NPR is fine promoting Pinegrove just because the victim hasn’t publicly stated she doesn’t want the band to continue. She probably doesn’t want to be harassed online over it. Shitty they don’t seem to care
     
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  9. ComedownMachine

    Prestigious Prestigious

    I think it’s kinda lame Halsey got a lot of backlash and media attention for making a dumb joke and got almost no criticism for the BN sample
     
  10. soundclash

    Newbie

    Honestly, that was my favorite song of BN’s and I didn’t even notice it was used until I read this thread. I was only listening on Spotify so I hadn’t seen the album notes, either. But either way, I won’t be returning to that album. Don’t know what she was thinking using it.
     
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  11. Anthony_

    A (Cancelled) Dork Prestigious

    It's honestly disgusting and I'm still almost in a state of disbelief that she actually did it.
     
  12. arewehavingfunyet

    Trusted

    Agreed.

    Can anyone break down the additional stuff about Pinegrove for me? The initial situation ruined their music for me but I'm wondering what everyone here knows that most people aren't aware of. Thanks.
     
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  13. Anthony_

    A (Cancelled) Dork Prestigious

    1. The survivor that we know about is not happy with them being "back" and does not like how they've handled coming back.

    2. There are other survivors that have not come forward.

    That's really it in a nutshell
     
  14. Carrow

    Japanese Bonus Track

    Record shops stocking music made by a predator and his enablers isn't something they always get a choice in but putting them on for shows (as Rough Trade shops have done) or promoting them like this is tacit endorsement and how to lose a customer in one easy step. I've shopped at Tower Records in Dublin for years but I'll never darken their door again. 20200125_162524.jpg
     
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  15. ItsAndrew

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  16. Donnie Ruth

    Trusted Supporter

    “I don’t care about a women’s opinion” is definitely accurate.
     
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  17. Carrow

    Japanese Bonus Track

    Sorry Jake, you're a nonce, you don't get opinions on anything never mind a woman's right to choose.
     
  18. God I wish he’d shut the fuck up
     
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  19. 333 GANG

    333 WRECKORDS CREW

    Launch that piece of shit into the fucking sun
     
  20. Dog Fish

    soups up

    Is it accurate/true that the survivor initially asked him to stay low for a year, and after that time was up, she 'didn't care what he did?'
     
  21. Anthony_

    A (Cancelled) Dork Prestigious

    no
     
  22. DarkHotline

    Bringing You Love Prestigious

     
  23. tyramail

    Trusted Supporter

    I posted those screenshots on my IG story and got a “100” reaction from him. He’s the worst.
     
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  24. Dog Fish

    soups up

    Was there something said remotely similar to that, or was it a lie?
     
  25. 333 GANG

    333 WRECKORDS CREW

    I genuinely hope very bad things happen to this frontporchstep scumbag
     
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