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Accountability in Music • Page 249

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by OhTheWater, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. Stephen Young

    Regular Prestigious

    "Both personally and through our attorneys"
     
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  2. sophos34

    Prestigious Supporter

    yeah i mean not too sure why they would mention lawyers are involved, thats not gonna make anybody feel better about the situation.
     
  3. Fair enough if they feel like the accused member of their band needs to leave (more than the likes of Don Broco ever did for example) but it also sounds like they rushed to get lawyers involved, which... yikes.
     
  4. supernovagirl

    Poetic and noble land mermaid

    It’s an interesting statement because just reading the beginning, it’s kind of a plot twist that it ends with him being dropped from the group.....
     
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  5. DarkHotline

    Proud To Bathe With A Rag On A Stick Prestigious

    Iirc, this happened to Devil You Know when they kicked out the drummer, they had to change the name because he had part ownership of the original name.
     
  6. Certainly can be true *but* taking this specifically in reference to the Hey Violet situation, as I understand it he's a newer member so there's no way to know exactly how involved or what level of ownership he actually has in the band itself. I'd be very, very surprised if he was legally considered an owner or an equal. (Doesn't mean he isn't, just... I would be shocked.)
     
  7. And that's also fair, there's just too much information we don't have for us to make that call either way.

    Looping back to the general convo though: with all that said, I'm glad they're removing him.
     
  8. teel

    Regular

  9. atlas

    Trusted

    "but, like, she didn't die dude"
     
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  10. Dinosaurs Dish

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  11. chris

    Trusted Supporter

    "basically nothing happened" is certainly a take
     
  12. Anthony_

    A (Cancelled) Dork Prestigious

    The amount of people who don’t consider/understand that attempting a crime is itself a serious crime, often just as serious as actually carrying one out, never ceases to astound me.
     
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  13. Stephen Young

    Regular Prestigious

    statement could've been cut down to "look man pedaltonecore hasn't been in since 08 and at this point we're desperate for any half decent tours"
     
  14. Tom

    It's way too late, or much too early Prestigious

  15. oldjersey

    Pro Podcaster Supporter

     
  16. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

    she keeps platforming abusers fuck her
     
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  17. Zilla

    Trusted Supporter

    She's the worst.
     
  18. Martina Apr 19, 2019
    (Last edited: Apr 19, 2019)
    Martina

    Regular

    There is a small social media storm blowing up today over reports that Ariana Grande was paid much more to play Coachella this year than Beyonce was paid to play last year, maybe twice as much. That report has been challenged or contradicted by story at the following link which says that the two artists were paid basically about the same we're playing both weekends.

    Ariana Grande Got Paid the EXACT Same Amount for Coachella as Beyoncé Did

    I'm posting this here because I haven't found a thread yet created specifically for this story and it does fit sort of under the umbrella of accountability or social responsibility. It's also interesting to get whatever insight one can into the complicated and secretive world of contracts for compensation and such for artists of this scale.

    My take on it is that it is mostly a social media storm which is blowing up to benefit the respective online encampments of both artists and the media machinery associated with Coachella. They all deserve recognition and respect for their achievements but if even if I were a committed fan in any of the related camps I wouldn't think this was a particularly good way to do it.

    I'm personally into artists who are vastly smaller in their market capitalization and I have to wonder as much about the media covering a music industry that pays artists four or eight or however many millions of dollars for two performances at a festival like Coachella, however impressive it is.

    Watching PR squalls like makes me feel like the people feel who are watching millionaires and billionaires pledging vast sums of money to rebuild the Notre Dame cathedral. I wonder if those billionaires or these millionaires have that kind of money in play if those same resources could somehow be distributed or spent more equitably to benefit society as a whole, including dealing with issues like racism and sexism which are supposed to be behind the concerns of people who are saying what artist should have been paid more or less or the same as the other.
     
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  19. ImAMetaphor

    absence 8/20/21 Prestigious

    From Absinthe Father/This Band Fucks

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  20. atlas

    Trusted

    Ick. Do they just not know that JJR is not a good dude?
     
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  21. OhTheWater

    Let it run Supporter

    Handguns tweeted about them too. Wasn’t pagano from AP in that band?
     
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  22. Yes.
     
  23. Contender

    Goodness is Nowhere Supporter

    He’s not in the current iteration of the band tho
     
  24. That band absolutely does not fuck.
     
  25. US Camera

    A Humble Snail Prestigious

    He left the band around the same time JJR came back aboard