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Accountability in Music • Page 1013

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by OhTheWater, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. brokenroor

    Stop blaming the refs, maybe you just suck

    Please explain whats happening then? I remember when it was simple to call antisemites out.
     
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  2. wisdomfordebris

    Moderator Moderator

    How about I just ban you from the thread instead?
     
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  3. Weirdo
     
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  4. Zilla May 8, 2025
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    Zilla

    Prestigious Supporter

    Not wading into the mental illness aspect of this, but I just worry with the kind of regression of our language as a way of being edgy, like the worst comedians and posters on Twitter bringing back the r-slur in full force, what a person like Kanye not only endorsing Nazis and Hitler, but also making a song about it is doing to normalize Nazis.

    Like, Kanye hasn’t been good in forever imo. But I still think he has a legacy that gives him more credibility than a Tom Macdonald, whose entire discography and existence is incredibly dorky and embarrassing.

    Like, there are inevitably going to be dorks playing and singing along to “Heil Hitler” and think it’s cool and subversive and I feel like we got a rare moment of grace that streaming services grew a conscience and banned the song because, like so many other times we’ve seen, they could have just “let the people decide” and kept it up.
     
  5. wheneyeawoke

    Regular

    I think Kanye is way past the point of any kind of redemption arc, but what is somehow sadder to me is that he clearly has no one who actually cares about him. He has a circle of enablers, and people who glom onto him for some sort of cred or glimpse of fame, and the whole thing sucks. I imagine people may have tried to help him in the past and have just been banished from his circle, but watching someone’s downfall like this from afar for the last half a decade just feels shitty.

    If ever I am at my lowest point and undergoing full mental collapse, I hope whatever friends I have left try to help me and not just use me for personal gain. But unfortunately for me, I am not rich or famous. There’s still time though!
     
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  6. Zilla

    Prestigious Supporter

    Yeah, I agree that he’s past a point of no return and has apologized for being antisemitic only to walk it back so many times that it would take a lot of work to make it feel genuine.

    I do wonder what this would have been like in a pre-influencer era because it just seems like he’s burned every bridge with even the worst rappers like The Game that he’s resorted to hanging out with bottom feeders like Sneako and Akademiks.

    Like, two decades ago, he just would have gone away because he’s been shunned. Now, there will always some low-tier class of moral-free influencers (with tons of followers) willing to work with him, even at his most antisemitic and homophobic because hey, it’s Kanye.
     
  7. 333 GANG May 8, 2025
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    333 GANG

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    Maybe this makes me a bad person, or maybe it’s the just the horror stories my polish grandparents have told me about their treatment at the hands of nazis echoing about in my brain, but I really don’t care why someone is a nazi. Mental health issues, personal choice, upbringing, etc. The details don’t matter to me. They change nothing. If someone is a nazi, I hope really, really bad things happen to them
     
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  8. genericities

    genericities.wordpress.com

    madness and genius have gone hand in hand since the dawn of time

    light, shadow etc

    kanye feels harmless. no one really takes him seriously as far as what he believes. he wields no political power. it’s just performance art. that he’s living in real time
     
  9. Not art. Not genius. Not madness. Not harmless.
     
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  10. Blainer93

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    Lol, yeah dude a song where the chorus is “heil Hitler” is so genius and is not harmless at all.
     
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  11. sleepwellbeast

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    Withholding all judgment of Kanye West praising Hitler like you’re Neo seeing the code of the Matrix scrolling all around you.
     
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  12. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Prestigious

    "kanye feels harmless" is one of the most embarrassing things I've ever read on this website
     
  13. People entertained the performance art thing for approximately two seconds when he started courting the right in 2016. Since then, it's literally been a decade of him repeatedly proving he is the dumbest motherfucker on the planet lol it is 100% NOT performance art. If he were to claim it is, that would only mean he doesn't understand what those words mean.
     
  14. Albe

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    definitely getting pigpiling / making fun of famous musicians with mental illness vibes in this thread
     
  15. wisdomfordebris

    Moderator Moderator

    I am not getting that vibe at all?
     
  16. Zilla

    Prestigious Supporter

    What in the world are you talking about?
     
  17. justin.

    請叫我賴總統 Supporter

    Tf is pigpiling
     
  18. wisdomfordebris

    Moderator Moderator

    brokenroor: talking about kanye’s well documented mental heath issues is nazi apologism!

    albe: talking about kanye being a nazi is mean to people will mental illness!

    I guess this is why this thread rarely has discussions like this lol
     
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  19. cricketandclover

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    the barnyard cousin of dogpiling?
     
  20. justin.

    請叫我賴總統 Supporter

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  21. OhTheWater

    Let it run Supporter

    Pigpiling is so fucking funny. Sometimes I wanna delete this thread but I can’t when we get gems like that
     
  22. sleepwellbeast

    Trusted

    ^ Textbook example of virtue pignaling.
     
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  23. incognitojones

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    I thought that said pigpilling, which would have to be something different I’m sure

    you can take the red pill and go back to your ordinary life, or take the pig pill and see how deep the shitposting goes
     
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  24. Albe

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  25. Sean Murphy

    Most Prestigious Supporter

    not gonna unblock albe to see what nonsense he's dribbling now but, imo kanye deserves to be and should be made fun of and 'pigpiled' on. nazis are bad. its so so simple.