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i unfortunately think you're right. i hate that he framed his actions as sex addiction, but saying anything else (which morally he should've) would've gone over poorly on the legal side of things.

 

In that case, I'll wait to see what happens, but considering how swiftly they fucked off after that blanket statement, I don't expect anything further. Still supporting the victims here; unless evidence emerges that Lacey has put in the work to change, I don't care to hear about BN ever again, and even if that does happen, he and his band of enablers are not owed a platform.

 

I wouldn’t expect them to acknowledge it ever. They stopped giving interviews decades ago and there are far less music outlets to hold them accountable than there were when they went away. They can literally just tour and play shows and never say a word besides “Thank you” to the crowd and they’ll be more popular than they’ve ever been. All anyone can do is not support it.

 

holy shit, the benefit was in honor of Jesse's son who died recently??? Everything else aside, that is unbelievably horrible, I can not imagine

 

Yeah, they're a band that became famously reclusive and cryptic anyway. They'll just continue to stay quiet about it and people will just assume they're doing what they've always done. 7 years later, enough fans have forgotten to guarantee they'd sell out whatever venue they book.

 

Since there’s weird conflicting reports about it online for some reason, it was his teenage stepson that passed. Not that it takes away from anything, I’m just explaining for anyone else that didn’t know. They didn’t reveal it publicly until a year after I believe. I just remember a lot of articles saying it was his young child that passed, which was weird considering their young daughter’s name is not even close to her brother’s.

 

Ahh got it, still terrible but good context

 

There's a weird irony in people finding out about this in part because All Time Low's sound guy posted a photo on IG.

 

Of course they would sell out whatever venue they’d book. I’m not framing this as a good or bad thing, but most people don’t know that something happened or they don’t actually care either way. People have their own woes and worries and if Brand New comes to town you bet your ass they’ll be there front row singing “Play Crack the Sky” at the top of their lungs to forget their problems for a night. I mean, look who a majority of US citizens just elected as a president. For a second time. And that guy is a convicted rapist.

A bubble of a 100 or 200 or 500 people who won’t support the band because of something seven years ago is a drop in the ocean. Either way, you do what you think is right for you personally.

 

Fuck Brand New.

 

Kinda sick to be in an exclusive club of the 100-500 people on Earth who stopped listening to and supporting Brand New.

 

Number seems low

 

hard, but really victims ought to have a say. landscape has also changed quite a bit from 2018. sounds like they got to quit when they were going to anyway and they're gonna come back cause they want to, such is the nature of power unfortunately.

 

Raises hand. Cut cold turkey. Sold my records. Bye.

 

Same. Took a BATH on the vinyl lol

 

If anyone has not seen it, one of the victims posted an update on Reddit

 

And she's being attacked for it now too.

 

Woman sues after singer's stage dive causes injuries at Buffalo concert | wgrz.com

Not sure if this is the right thread? But an update on the girl who suffered a spinal injury after the singer from Trophy Eyes stage dived on her.

Bird is such a good person, knowing her through some people it was really scary to see what happened. Thankfully she’s gotten most of her movement back in her arms/legs but will never fully recover.

Also, looks like the venue and the promoter might end up going under after this. Sucks because it’s one of the last punk/hardcore venues in the city and the promoter is Western NYs largest independent promoter, they probably book 70% of the shows here.

 

Abuse of Power and the Legacy of Jesse Lacey

 

Thanks for the update! I’m glad she’s doing as well as she is, so that’s awesome.

 

Brand New fans don’t deserve a moment of peace

 

Why the fuck would you do THAT

 

What an absolute fucking shock

 

Thank you for reiterating this. Nobody in this situation is going to basically hand a victim an easy (and costly) win in court.