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It's a fucking pop song from a pop band. The most visited lyrics (only) site already has links to the articles about the situation.

 

Some of the takes on the song seem to draw the conclusion that the band is actively promoting any of this alt right incel shit as if the video isn't clearly meant to satirize it

 

I don’t think some of the people on here realize they’re hurting their own cause.(If the problem with the world is always outside of yourself, you’re probably not reflecting enough on yourself/your own wrongdoings)

 

My favorite thing about this conversation is that it’s happening in like 4 different threads

 

You just posted a link to the “moon man” meme, which is pretty explicitly tied to white supremacist and alt-right groups online.

 

Wow you sure got him there

 

I just don’t necessarily think the convo has to jump to “why is everyone trying to CANCEL a POP BAND”, ya know? Nothing got beyond “this is gross” or distasteful or not handled well, and there are multiple threads already shitting on the response in here, lol.

Matty has a history of saying/doing problematic things and putting his foot in his mouth. If that’s enough for you to stop supporting them or to call them out or if these lyrics/the video make you uneasy, that’s absolutely fine, talk about it


If you don’t get what’s problematic/don’t think there was anything wrong with the video, it’s a weird look to say that the accountability thread is at it again. No one is gathering pitchforks or staging protests, just voicing concern with someone who has said some dumb shit in the past

 

RT

 

You’re right, I’m the same as the band

 

Thank you for this

 

The nitpickiness/pointing out of peoples missteps in here reminds me a lot of my experiences in organized religion. It gives me the same gross feeling. Who are the people commenting and what is their history?

 

From where I'm at, I do think it's suspect that Matty was promoting PG on his instagram a few weeks ago and now there's that line in the song. I don't know exactly what he's going for. I've described the Pinegrove situation as "weird" before and meant the coverage/the other allegations and the fact that nothing has really been done about it, not the actual sexual coercion. Again, I just think it's a clumsy line.

The video itself I kinda get what it's going for? But it's still, again, clumsy and I don't necessarily know what point they're trying to make by using a bunch of memes that have been co-opted by the alt right. As someone said before, an all white all cis band doing that is a strange look.

Maybe they'll speak on it more and clear things up? Idk.

 

Ah yes, "What if the Accountability thread itself is the problem?", this is my favorite Chorus meme

 

*anthony deflects*

 

I think the problem isn't saying the aftermath of the allegations was a weird situation, it's that dropping Pinegrove's name in a song and then casting what happened as "the weird stuff" comes across as flippant. The context sort of makes it sound like he's minimizing what happened or that he doesn't take it as seriously as he should. And if people are exposed to Pinegrove because of that song (because The 1975 namedropping a band in a single gives that band huge free exposure) those people might not even think to look into what happened if they think it was just "some weird stuff". So it's dropping their name in a new single without reckoning fully with why Pinegrove is problematic.

 

nah it's more like *anthony refuses to give legitimacy to a very bad post*

 

*No accountability in accountability thread*

 

No ones acting like we don’t also have missteps ya fuckin dunce. Come back with this when one of us has the platform that the 1975 has.

 

*supernovagirl deflects*

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That’s one of the worst takes I’ve ever seen in here tbh. Sheesh.

 

Lmao
Also wild to be like y’all are echoing religion and then hit us with the LET HE WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE...

 

This is what made me like "really though?!" hahaha

 

Why do people spend so much time on the internet when it clearly makes them unhappy man

I think that’s one of the main themes of the video as well