Accountability in Entertainment • Page 458

Ok that’s enough

 

if someone's being transphobic, i'm gonna call them transphobic. you're acting like i'm judging his entire character. i don't know the guy and i don't give a shit.

 

Could you just please explain to me how not talking to your sibling definitively concludes that you are transphobic without any other details? That is all I’m saying. Dude clearly is a dickhead. I just don’t understand how it’s okay to jump to things and state it as fact. I’m not sticking up for him in any way and he probably is a transphobe, but how can we just say that with no proof? It’s their family business you’re making assumptions about.

 

you're overrationalizing an emotional thing. i'm not making an assumption about him. i'm getting transphobic vibes. if someone looked at me weird on the subway i'm not gonna stop and ask them if they're transphobic, racist, fatphobic, or all of the above.

 

Thank you for answering me. I was being genuine.

And I wasn’t trying to say you were wrong in your feelings, so I hope it didn’t come off that way. But saying someone has transphobic vibes and outright labeling someone as one are two different things. So I don’t think we should jump that is all I was getting at.

 

That's a wrap, people. Take five.

 

Holy shit

 

It’s almost as if people who aren’t in a marginalized demographic, might not notice micro aggressions that aren’t directed at them, and as a result of this naivete, might subconsciously or accidentally normalize transphobic sentiments if it’s packaged in non-transphobic language or context

I thought we all learned this lesson during BLM, maybe not

 

I don’t know why people being a piece of shit to family makes it none of our business. Just because it’s family we can’t call him an asshole? So if you use a stranger for clout it’s our business but not family? Or if a stranger calls you out for dating racists it’s fair game now? That’s silly

 

Jesus Christ, I never said they were wrong about their feelings.

I was saying it’s wrong to label him with no definitive evidence. Clearly I did not get my point across well so I’m leaving it at this. But I was never saying anyone was wrong for getting transphobic vibes.

 

That’s not what I was saying at all, but okay.

 

No, you got your point across, it’s just not a point that someone who isn’t trans should be making to counter when they haven’t experienced and might not be aware of all the ways transphobia can be readily apparent. Usually it’s not “fuck you you freak” and does take on the passive dynamic of, family ghosting you for example, and never telling you why but it’s kinda contextually obvious

so to cast doubt or aspersions on this idea just kinda shows your privilege cause it actually happens exactly like that all the time

 

I clearly didn’t get my point across because you’re not telling me anything I don’t know. I don’t understand it myself, but I know.

So no, my point wasn’t clear obviously.

 

Whatever man

I back myself into corners on this site sometimes too, sometimes the best thing to do is log off and re read later.

 

I mean I’m not that worried about it. If people don’t like me because they misunderstood me then it is what it is. But I was never telling anyone how to feel so don’t tell me I was.

 

It doesn't matter what you think you were doing if everyone else is taking it differently. I know you understand this.

Just say that you're making your point badly, it's okay to defer to the other person's POV instead of trying to tell them they're wrong.

 

Hits the nail on the head. Sure, this could've remained private but considering Dylan's an actor who's worked on queer themed movies and thus benefited from that (being seen as a LGBTQIA+ ally to further his career? sounds likely to me), he definitely deserves to be called out. It hits more coming from a relative as it's so relatable, touching on a less visible type of transphobia you rarely see brought up outside trans spaces.

 

Y’all can let it the fuck go. You win. I’m the asshole. I’m done here.

 

the fuck happened here. i left for two minutes.

you're not an asshole. i thought we ended this conversation already