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Accountability in Entertainment • Page 338

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by OhTheWater, May 11, 2016.

  1. neo506

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  2. Cameron

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    Very interesting. Though what’s the accountability?
     
  3. neo506

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    Nothing. I just like to post celebrities doing the right thing every so often, to give us a break from all that shitty stuff in here.
     
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  4. Cameron

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    In that case I approve!
     
  5. morgantayler

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  6. For context, it does look like he's been selling that merch for months so it's not like he's immediately capitalizing on this (the IG post was from three days ago), but still, very unfortunate and bad look
     
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  7. incognitojones

    Some Freak Supporter

    Design should have incorporated a big red flag on it
     
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  8. Nyquist

    I must now go to the source Supporter

    Complete Unrelenting Control or CUC but please don’t call us that
     
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  9. somethingwitty

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  11. Helloelloallo

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    Tbh, I don't think any of those texts needed to be made public, and while Jonah isn't in the the right, it's just 2 people working through a relationship and trust and jealously issues, and Jonah is someone who needs to work out their own insecurities before being in one. (and you also have to take into account these are cherry picked messages released). There's a lot of relationships out there, where if one side released the 'texts' of their SO at their weakest moments / in an argument, you could paint a pretty toxic picture. Until more comes out, this is portrait of someone who has issues they need to work out, but I don't see why they should be held accountable and have their career suffer...
     
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  12. JoshIsMediocre

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    personally I'd rather say nothing than "both sides" something like this
     
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  13. ItsAndrew

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    This is not just two people working through a relationship though?? Like what? Also calling them cherry picked messages I feel discredits her as a victim here.
     
  14. Meerkat

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    He was being controlling and manipulative. It’s emotional abuse. End of story. Women are always told they don’t have receipts so they won’t be believed. Then when they do y’all still find ways not to see it for what it is. I don’t know what “context” could be shown to make this look like anything other than what it is. If he had been dating a chef and told her she couldn’t cook for men it’s the same thing except it’d be cut and dry since we don’t spend time arguing over who can and can’t control womens’ bodies
     
  15. Helloelloallo

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    Then you do you. Me being me, I felt like commenting on how I see it. For an actor that that has been ridiculed for weight gain / loss, and spoke openly about anxiety, I have sympathy for how that probably affects their outlook in a relationship. I'm not saying she's in the wrong and should have put up with someone who needs that level of control, but I dislike sharing it for the world to see and dislike the immediate reaction of Jonah Hill is now a shitty, horrible person.

    EDIT: I understand and removed the cherry picked part based on a comment earlier.
     
  16. somethingwitty

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    I really hope she can recover from this and find a healthy relationship.

    I feel terrible for his new gf though, to be dealing with this after just having given birth. That has to be a wild amount of stress.

    The accountability part on this though…I’m not sure how we hold people accountable for actions like this? Are we even supposed to?

    I have years of shitty texts from ex boyfriends, good thing for them none of them are famous I guess?
     
  17. Meerkat

    human junk drawer Prestigious

    This is also a text book display of how abusive men have adopted the language of therapy/self-improvement to further their abuse and manipulation. “My boundary is that you, a professional surfer, don’t have any photos of yourself in a bathing suit” is absurd and not a boundary. He doesn’t get a say here
     
  18. neo506

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    Yeah if she had waited it would've been "Well why did she wait so long?"
     
  19. incognitojones

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    Yeah this is not what a boundary is, it’s really gross to see these concepts twisted.

    a boundary is something you create for yourself and your own protection, not a cage you can put someone else in.
     
  20. Meerkat

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    Possibly the last I’m going to chime in with because some of you are being incredibly offensive, insensitive, and obtuse: whisper networks only protect the people who hear the whispers. Women are trying to protect each other and I find it incredibly offensive to suggest that she’s exaggerating because he’s famous.
     
  21. Helloelloallo

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    The only person who the information is relevant to and a warning to right now, is Olivia Millar. Who knows what relationship her and Jonah have. She can reflect on this, and it it may help her determine if his behavior in their relationship is abusive. Maybe she's been putting up with similar shit thinking it was normal. Maybe they had an honest and open conversation at the beginning, where Jonah opened up about his insecurities, and what happened in his last relationship and that he was at fault with jealously and over zealous boundaries/controlling requests. Maybe this relationship is much healthier. Maybe it isn't and maybe none of that happened, and maybe he's in general a POS to be with in any relationship.

    Do people who were mentally abusive in a relationship never get the chance to better themselves and have a partner again?
     
  22. Tim

    thank u, next Supporter

    I don't understand what you're arguing for here...? Or why you're set on defending him.

    No one is suggesting that he get executed or imprisoned for life. And, some of us who rightfully have issue with his abusive behavior still had problems with some unhelpful anti-Jonah comments in the mid90s thread. The fact of the matter is, he was behaving in an abusive, manipulative manner, and that deserves to be addressed directly & honestly.
     
  23. Of course they do, but people who were very clearly manipulated and emotionally abused also deserve the chance to share their story. They are not obligated to have to carry that baggage alone
     
  24. Meerkat

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    I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming this is in good faith. I’ve been sick for a week so I don’t have the energy to provide links but I’d encourage you to research why women create whisper networks and the purpose they serve.

    Provided they go through therapy and actually genuinely get better, yes. But part of that is recognizing that they aren’t entitled to forgiveness. Or their actions being forgotten. The fact of the matter is that a lot of these people don’t better themselves because they see nothing wrong with their behavior. In this particular instance, Jonah made a whole ass documentary about his therapist that quite frankly is incredibly inappropriate generally speaking but it’s also relevant because this therapist also served as their couples counselor.

    People can make their own decisions but at the end of the day, I’d want to know if someone I was talking to had been abusive. It’s dangerous and there’s no way to know if that person has actually gotten better if they say they have. That’s not a risk everyone wants to take. To imply that that’s not fair or whatever is a little unsettling. I’m not understanding why you think it’s such a bad thing that women try to look out for each other and prevent what happened to them from happening to other women
     
  25. oy vey!!
     
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