Accountability in Entertainment • Page 322

Because he’s a creepy little hack

 

I can't imagine that set feeling safe between the stories about season 2, and now The Idol's disastrous production. The visual language for the show has been established. He's replaceable. Fuck that creep.

 

Precedent for people leaving their own shows (not necessarily for accountability reasons)? Dan Harmon on Community, Pen Ward on Adventure Time? Eric Kripke on Supernatural, Frank Darabont on TWD?

 

Historically, tv shows have always had different showrunners over time.

Larry David on Seinfeld is another example of someone choosing to leave the show on their own

 

He called Zendaya at like ten at night to ask how to finish a script he's in over his head

 

Idk that sounds like a normal thing to do to me lol.

My main thought was that the show is clearly popular and it sounds like HBO is happy with his work since they gave this one to him so I don't really see why they'd replace him. I don't recall the stories about season 2 so i don't have that info.

 

yeah i'm very in the column of "what on earth is the accountability issue here" but, I dont watch euphoria and have no idea what the stories about production are.

 

Wasn't 100% sure but the staff clearly feels uncomfortable with the changes to the show and always a red flag if someone is obsessed with violence against women

Abel getting a woman fired so he can be the star is also gross

 

It might not be your standard accountability issue, but I don't know how you could read about that new Idol scene under his supervision and not feel it is at the very least alarming

 

Sydney Sweeney had to tell him he needed to tone down the nudity with her on “Euphoria” because even though she’s comfortable doing it, she felt it was too much and I can’t imagine watching season 2 and not thinking the same thing. The guy’s work and view of women is uncomfortable and not in a “This is too real” kind of way.

 

Imagine being able to overcome your lack of talent on the backs of your dad and your cinematographer and Zendaya and still managing to show so much of your ass at work

 

I vaguely remember Barbie Ferreira had some issues with him too?

 

That was the one thing I do remember from around that time and I thought she was saying that he was fine with changing anything she was uncomfortable with.

https://screenrant.com/euphoria-show-sydney-sweeney-nude-scenes-response-new/

"I never asked him to cut any scenes. It got twisted and turned and it became its own beast, and I was like, ‘Oh, my God.’ It was more how respectful Sam is and how incredible of a director he is, that he would never make me do something I didn’t feel comfortable with. I think [nudity] important to the storyline and the character. There’s a purpose to what that character is going through. That’s the character. We all get naked in real life. We show this character’s life and what they’re going through. Cassie’s body is a different form of communication for her.”

 

Not sure he deserves credit for constantly writing gratuitous nudity into her scenes and not forcing her to shoot them once she voices her discomfort lol. You can simply not write your scenes to show your very young and always objectified actress topless once an episode

 

personally think audiences are far too prude about the human body and the only time it really matters is when the actor or actress is uncomfortable. just my opinion tbh I don’t watch euphoria and according to my girlfriend probably can’t watch euphoria due to how triggering it would be for me. still this is something that’s come up more recently in other contexts and that’s just my take on nudity in general

 

lol weird

 

This is the moment I’ve realized pop culture has rocketed beyond my old head existence. I don’t understand anything that’s happening lol.

 

Just to add - I have no problem with nudity and didn’t know that Sweeney’s quote was misconstrued. While I do think that Levinson has a preoccupation with her body, especially compared to all the other cast members, if she’s comfortable with it then who cares. That said, this stuff with “The Idol” does seem to be very not good, coming from so many sources.

 

The guy is obviously shitty and I don’t understand the people here defending him

 

The potential problem imo with this take is that it doesn’t account the pressure placed on women in particular to do nude or explicit sex scenes and the culture that has caused that pressure. So it seems fine to say it should be up to the director and actress but that’s without the context of the pressures put on the actress and the opportunities lost if they aren’t comfortable.

 

that’s a wide issue with patriarchy in general and not really part of my take because societal pressure for women to sexualize themselves to succeed is absolutely not something I think is good, which seems evident if you know me. but I also think women should have the agency to do nude scenes if they so choose and shouldn’t be judged for it, and I don’t think a character “appearing topless every week,” on its face is a damning piece of evidence against a show or the way said character is written

 

But that’s not all there is to the story, it’s not a defense to the allegations. And it’s not in the context of the patriarchy in general. So ideally yeah but that’s not what’s happening.

 

I mean reading further into it the dude seems pretty off in his handling of women but the quote from Sydney Sweeney and subsequent clarification don’t really point to anything…bad. The other stuff about this new show yeah not good if true

 

Thread has moved kind of quickly this week, but the Mark Wahlberg issue is pretty loaded. From what I’ve read, he got in touch with Johnny Trinh and apologized, which Trinh accepted. He then pursued a pardon for the 1986 hate crime which obviously and understandably pissed off all the victims. I ultimately just don’t think he should have the luxury and privilege of being a movie star but it seems like most people have either forgotten or genuinely have no idea any of it ever happened