This just set a really dangerous precedent for DV survivors wanting to talk about their experience, even if they decide not to name their abusers. Like this is really bad. I’m thinking about Evan Rachel Wood and I’m so scared for her.
I'm devastated for amber. The fact that she was there while he is in the UK playing concerts after he says his career was negatively impacted is so dystopian. This isn't just celebs fighting and wanting attention. This is an abuser dragging the woman he abused thru the court system, abusing her further, and succeeding while inviting the entire world to abuse her further as well. The fact that my abuser could take me to court and win from me talking about my abuse publicly and never once naming him is a scary thought. Will that ever happen? Unlikely. But the precedent it sets is terrifying. Many victims, including myself, don't have near the amount of documentation and evidence that amber has. If a beautiful white privileged celeb can be abused this way in the court system, what's that going to say to other victims? How will this scare other victims from coming forward? It's absurd.
the judge reading a verdict finding defamation regarding a statement from a survivor about how the system is designed to protect abusers is too on the nose tbh
Heard still has a few options to pursue, such as making a motion to the judge about the verdict being contrary to the evidence, and she can also appeal, but man this really sucks.
So gross. Legal system was set up by powerful men to protect themselves and it has always been unfair to women. Hope she can appeal and win but fuck Depp and everything about this case
His supporters who have been behaving abbhorently will forget about this trial in a few weeks, at least until there's another woman to discredit. The victims/survivors impacted by this decision will not be as lucky
Yes. He abused her for their entire relationship and when she wrote about it during a movement designed to empower women to share their stories he first sued a publication and lost (because he did abuse her) and then sued her and used the defamation trial process in this shit country to charm his way back into the public’s good graces and the worst part might be the media completely ate it up in the most one sided coverage I’ve ever seen and now he’s won in the verdict too so yeah this is devastating for abuse survivors.
God I'm devastated for Amber and feel sick about the repercussions this will have for victims going forward.
Was thinking the same thing re: how nonsensical this is. Probably a couple of "well they were both bad people" folks on the jury that wouldn't vote to award money to Depp if Amber didn't get something as well, if I had to guess.
This year has been awful for women. It feels like two steps forward three steps back all the time. "PC" and "cancel" culture is a lie. Anytime we try to make progress in society we get dragged backwards. I know we'll keep fighting but just for today I want to mope and give up
I also cannot believe the verdict or really even understand it but I am thankful for this thread. At work a group chat is happening with nothing but celebration for Johnny and it is making me furious for Amber and any other victims of dv. So so sick.
Most people in my life have fallen into the "they're both awful people" camp. Which is still infuriating.
Michael Hobbs has been cool about the trial if anyone needs to see positivity. He hosts the Maintenance Phase and You're Wrong About podcasts and guested on the Cancel Me, Daddy podcast talking about the trial
Yepp. Also I guess they're cool with Disney again? Can't keep their many grievances straight anymore.
The media has been such a massive failure on this trial that I think many otherwise well meaning people have been pulled into the one sided pro Depp narrative.
Tbh I wanna see sociological studies on this case. So many women and alleged victims came out in support of depp and it's wild. There's something there. Abused women trying to distance themselves from heard and insist they would've never behaved like her and get validation as a "good victim" which seems v trauma based. Plus feminists wanting to seem "fair" that they believe men too, and decided to hitch their wagon to Depp. Idk idk I'm just spitballing here but like there is something there that someone smarter than me needs to dig into.