Accountability in Entertainment • Page 172

I typed a four paragraph spiel about why “cancel culture” is needed and why comics viewed as edgy like Rogan and Burr are getting so much pushback despite making the cut & generally not being jerks but I lost it when my computer rebooted (it was too long anyway). TLDR version is humor that’s becoming more relevant now leans more towards non-edgy ethical perspective because of the jerk overflow in real life and the needed reprieve from it. If there were less actual jerks in life, the comics who pay rent pretending to be jerks might still be just as funny, but here we are. Who gets relevant platforms now rightfully seems based more on long term effectiveness of improving/maintaining sociopolitical health, and while some of the criticisms of more dysfunctional comics DEFINITELY vibe like mid 90’s conservative censorship, tankie chess moves and covert late 60’s psychobabble, a lot of it also is because of that first reason.

EDIT: the post about the edgy trans stuff popped up after I sent this one. Man, that sucks and I wish I didn't know about it haha. Even though it might still fall under his jerk persona, those jokes as presented in those excerpts seem cringe and hacky at best. It is what it is, hopefully his takes there have genuinely improved since then.

 

Why on earth do you need to type four paragraphs on that?

 

I guess I had a lot I wanted to say, but ultimately didn't need four paragraphs to say it, hence why it was not retyped!

 

Agreed wholeheartedly. He has such a naturally funny delivery and flow to his stand-up, and there are bits he has where it seems like he's so close to "getting it" (a couple interesting ones on masculinity and the idea of performative "wokeness"), but then retreats into hacky, bigoted bullshit. It's maddening.

 

Bill and Chappelle are both capable of being funny and insightful so it's a bummer when they're gross

 

I was a fan of Burr’s, I even went to see him live back in like 2015. The guy is just insufferable these days.

And yeah Chappelle falls into the same boat. Once he started whining about cancel culture, making transphobic jokes, and referring to the LGBTQ community as “Alphabet People” I was done with him as well.

 

It's interesting because Burr's monologue (I went into it knowing very little about him, which makes sense because I tend to avoid what I perceive to be edgelord pissbaby comedians ever since Gervais blocked me that one time for calling him a pissbaby) made me roll my eyes hugely at "cancel culture" but he was fundamentally not incorrect with what he said about white feminism.

Problem is, coming from him it feels more like punching down a la misogyny than it does a good-faith critique.

The transphobia, however, isn't interesting at all. It's just unacceptable.

 

Sorry, should've quoted you before.

@DarkHotline can you expand on what you were saying?

 

my thoughts any time a white man makes any sort of “white women amirite?!” joke

 

What? That women and PoC are an overwhelming minority on this site and it has been brought up many times?

 

Oh I thought you were saying something else about white male comedians in general

 

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But he is a pissbaby. How do you deny truth? Lame.

 

Also idk if you know, but dude is an atheist. WHATTTTTT

 

And in pissbaby fashion, that's why he RT'd my tweet (that didn't tag him, so he searched for it lmao) so his little fans could harass me and then blocked me immediately. I've become unblocked since then but it was one of the more absurd experiences I've had just in terms of... dude, really? CRY INTO YOUR MONEY ABOUT IT.

 

"impeded her breathing" is a new one for me in terms of "fun euphemisms folks come up with for domestic violence"

 

In their defense some people on the internet were *checks notes* rude to Pratt for being terrible, which is the also the worst thing that can ever happened to anyone ever

 

They weren't even that rude! Just that he wasn't as good as Evans, Hemsworth, and Pine, which is like, an objective fact.

 

And that he sucks ass because he's a conservative, also an objective fact

 

Evans > Hemsworth > Pine > Pratt for me I think

 

But it HURT his feelings! What's a little support for conversion therapy when compared to someone hurting a rich white man's feelings??

 

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