A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms: The Hedge Knight (HBO) TV Show • Page 16

The part where Sir A wakes up really quickly as Dunc already started to grieve was funny.

 

I like this a lot and I do love how different it is than any other GoT show. I do think they made some weird choices though, especially in the few modern music tracks. Why you playing jazz on my medieval heard fantasy show?

 

Yeah the jazz music was very strange.

 

Think you all should look at the lyrics of the song

 

I'm talking about the music at the beginning of the episode not the end credits. The end credits is fine.

 

So is the show changing names for the next season(s)?

 

Ever since I found out one of the main show runners from Patriot is involved in this a lot to the stylistic tones make a lot of sense.

 

Why would they? The book series is just referred to as "Dunk & Egg". The first novella season 1 is based on is called The Hedge Knight and the novella season 2 will be based on is called The Sworn Sword. A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms is name of the collection of all three published novellas.

 

Would imagine they were joking because Egg told Dunk that there are actually 9 kingdoms

 

I wish they would have explained to the viewers the lore reasons why It's called "The 7 Seven Kingdoms" despite there being 9 regions of Westeros.

Before Aegon the Conquerer took over Westeros the continent was divided between 7 separate kingdoms: Kingdom of Isles & Rivers, The Stormlands, Westerlands, The Reach, Dorne, The Vale, and The North.

The Iron Islands ruled over The Riverlands and The Stormlands ruled most of The Crownlands. The Riverlands and The Crownlands were only turned into separate regions post-targaryens.

 

You're in a thread for a medieval fantasy show Pat.

 

Yes and

 

Do you also walk into bars and be like "drunks am I right?". Well no shit there are drunks in a bar lol

 

This whole scene was interesting and funny. Lyonel getting annoyed with the Maester saying Dunk is dying and being like “oh fuck off he’s fine, you’re fine” lol. But also really seeing the hatred for the Targaryens shine through again, you can see people were pretty done with their rule by this point, but it takes another 70 years or so for revolution to happen

 

And the reason why revolt against the Targaryens took another couple generations to happen was the work of Dunk and Egg themselves throughout their lives <<< booktalk.

 

This is the first GoT show I've watched and really liked it. First half of the season almost felt like a comedy. Hope it stays small in scope

 

Is there some reason why nobles would hate the Targaryens as a group beyond just being like “WE should be the ones in charge”?

Like I don’t think there’s anything specific to them and their rule that couldn’t just as easily apply to any other house. I guess they’re technically foreign colonizers, but that’s never really been as aspect that any characters have ever seemed to care about. Dorne is the only one that emphasizes the colonized-by-force aspect of their relationship to the kingdom

 

Their religion looks down on the incest too.

 

I think that foreign invaders thing and incest and etc have all always been there, but once they were conquered with dragons, they all just begrudgingly accepted it and that’s just “how life was” because how are you gonna resist dragons and etc. Then the dragons all died and Targ rule was more or less okay in the years immediately following that, but Baelor the Blessed’s rule rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, and then Aegon the Unworthy was a terrible king whose decisions sparked decades of civil wars. I’d say his rule was probably the one that really had the other nobles looking around saying “wait…they don’t have any dragons anymore…”. But then there were some good kings after that that were able to keep it sputtering along for another 100 years or so

 

They’re incestuous aliens Marx.

 

im putting it in the newspaper that you're mad hali

 

Mads should come to Westeros

 

In GRRM lore I think the presumption is that sort of sentiment was there beneath the surface from the beginning but it was tempered by them having dragons and them having a decades long reign from a genuinely good king. As soon as their dragons went away it became a ticking clock. It's in the books but hasn't really been explored on TV that much until now.

A lot of it is religious (Early on there was a huge religious revolt that ended when the Targs got away with incest because the church declared them as having exceptionalism and beyond the law of the Seven). There is also resentment for many brutal wars the Targs dragged the realm into. This show takes place just a decade after a brutal civil war tore the country apart, 25 years after the reign of one of the worst Targ kings ever, 50 years after a bungled invasion of Dorne that killed tens of thousands, and almost 80 years after the Dance of The Dragons. People are fed up.