74th Golden Globes Discussion • Page 12

Wow, totally would have thought it'd be MBTS

 

FINALLY MOONLIGHT GETS ONE

 

hell ya

I audibly cheered at a hollywood awards show, what is happening

 

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See Moonlight

 

Wow that was unexpected. But I would've been happy with either this or Manchester. Great surprise win for Moonlight.

 

Maybe Brad Pitt should accept the award too.

 

Moonlight is so deserving, great win.

 

gonna be a three horse race next month

 

So happy for the Moonlight crew. Was sad that it seemed like they weren't going to win anything.

 

Yea, definitely expected "Manchester" to get it. Great to see "Moonlight" win.

 

Moonlight was my favorite film of the year (though I also loved Manchester) so I'm quite pleased.

Mahershala was still robbed though

 

Unfortunately I don't think that will be the case. The Academy is collectively a sucker for movies like La La Land. I think it's already over. Although they have split Picture and Director three of the last four years so maybe Jenkins or Lonergan have a shot there.

I think Ali wins Best Supporting Actor and Jenkins gets Best Adapted Screenplay. MBTS gets Best Actor. That'll be what they have to settle for.

 

Show started with Fallon doing an extended Chris Rock impersonation and ended with MOONLIGHT finally getting that W

what a ride

 

Yay

 

Would love to see Jenkins win at the Oscars instead of Chazelle. Not only was Moonlight better than La La Land, it would make it the fifth year in a row that a director of color won the award. Jenkins would also (finally) be the first African American to win the award.

 

So those three movies should divvy up best picture, director, and screenplay or?

 

Thing is, it is hard to get original, live action film musicals made these days. But the stigma of "musicals don't sell" is the primary reason why.

 

Well, because the Oscars separate screenplays by Original and Adapted, Moonlight will be in Adapted while MBTS and La La Land will be competing against each other in Original. So I think Moonlight wins Adapted easily while La La Land will beat MBTS (even though it isn't better) because the wave of Best Picture love for La La Land will drive votes for it. It's why Birdman beat out The Grand Budapest Hotel for Best Original Screenplay two years ago, somehow.

As for Director, splitting it with Picture is still not the norm, although it happens more often than people think. And, like I said, it's happened three of the last four year (with Birdman being the exception) so it appears to be occurring more often recently. Not out of the question, is my point. Personally I think both MBTS and Moonlight are deserving of both awards.

 

Lot less hard when the musical is harmless, about Hollywood, starring two white superstars and directed by a dude who already made it to the Oscars tho

 

Doesn't change the fact that my point was that there is a self-imposed stigma on original, live-action musicals that prevents more from getting made. It shouldn't basically require all those things to get one made.

 

There are modern musicals, Magic Mike, Step Up, animated films etc. this is being viewed as a "prestige" film meant to be taken seriously, though

 

Last year's Chi-raq was a much bolder, harder to make musical than La La Land.

(much better, too)

 

So much love for Donald - it was his night. Atlanta is one of the best things to come out of the terrible year that was 2016

 

One last time: live-action, original musicals are exceedingly difficult to make these days because there is a stigma attached to musicals that they "don't sell" or that nobody wants to see them. That stigma makes it so that only something like La La Land (white, non-challenging, about Hollywood, with big movie stars) could get this kind of attention. This is a bad thing and I would like to see it changed. I don't think La La Land is "bold" or that it was "brave" to make it. I think it proves my point that musicals are so hard to get made that this is being held up as the be-all end-all (even though I did like the film a lot).

I hope I've (finally) made myself clear. I really don't know how else to say it.