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2004 in music.

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by phaynes12, Mar 7, 2022.

  1. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    Blink-182's Blink-182 won 2003. Blech. Let's see who wins 2004.

    Billboard chart-topping albums of 2004:
    Alicia Keys - The Diary of Alicia Keys (cont. from 2003)
    Outkast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below (cont. from 2003)
    Josh Groban - Closer (cont. from 2003)
    Twista - Kamikaze
    Kenny Chesney - When the Sun Goes Down
    Norah Jones - Feels Like Home
    Usher - Confessions
    D12 - D12 World
    Avril Lavigne - Under My Skin
    Velvet Revolver - Contraband
    Beastie Boys - To The 5 Boroughs
    Jadakiss - Kiss of Death
    Lloyd Banks - The Hunger for More
    Jimmy Buffet - License to Chill
    Ashlee Simpson - Autobiography
    Various Artists - Now! 16
    Tim McGraw - Live Like You Were Dying
    Alan Jackson - What I Do
    Nelly - Suit
    Green Day - American Idiot
    Rascal Flatts - Feels Like Today
    George Strait - 50 Number Ones
    Rod Stewart - Stardust
    R. Kelly and Jay Z - Unfinished Business
    Various Artists - Now! 17
    Eminem - Encore
    U2 - How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb
    Jay Z and Linkin Park - Collision Course
    Ludacris - The Red Light District

    Billboard chart-topping singles of 2004:
    Outkast - Hey Ya (cont. from 2003)
    Outkast - The Way You Move (cont. from 2003)
    Twista - Slow Jamz
    Usher - Yeah
    Usher - Burn
    Fantasia - I Believe
    Usher - Confessions Pt. II
    Juvenile - Slow Motion
    Terror Squad - Lean Back
    Ciara - Goodies
    Usher - My Boo
    Snoop Dogg - Drop It Like It's Hot

    What are your top three albums for 2004? We will keep a running tally and eventually have some sort of bracket. For me it would be:
    1. Wilco - A Ghost is Born
    2. Madvillain - Madvillainy
    3. Mastodon - Leviathan

    What are some of the forgotten gems from the year? What is overrated? What did you discover at a young age and what did you discover later?

    YEARS IN MUSIC • forum.chorus.fm
     
  2. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    My favorite music year, ever.
     
  3. Jim

    Trusted Supporter

    1. Arcade Fire - Funeral
    2. Modest Mouse - Good News...
    3. Kanye West - The College Dropout
     
  4. soggytime Mar 7, 2022
    (Last edited: Mar 7, 2022)
    soggytime

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    Pretty much the rest of the 2000s are insane formative years for me from this point on. Very hard to pick just 3 as so many of these records are all timers for me.

    1. Madvillian - Madvillainy
    2. Taking Back Sunday - Where You Want To Be
    3. Jimmy Eat World - Futures

    ALSO
    My Chemical Romance - Three Cheers For Sweet Revenge
    Straylight Run - Straylight Run
    The Used - In Love and Death
    Green Day - American Idiot
    Kanye West - The College Dropout
    MF DOOM - MM...FOOD (MF DOOM put out 2 of the greatest hip hop records ever in the same year!!)
    Lil Wayne - Da Drought 2
    Lil Wayne - Tha Carter
    Jadakiss - Kiss of Death
    Underoath - They're Only Chasing Safety
    Modest Mouse - Good News For People Who Love Bad News
    The Black Keys - Rubber Factory
    Hot Rod Circuit - Reality's Coming Through
    The Killers - Hot Fuss
    Butch Walker - Letters
    The Alchemist - 1st Infantry
    Alexisonfire - Watch Out!
    Slipknot - Vol 3: The Subliminal Verses
    Say Anything - ...Is A Real Boy
    Rise Against - Siren Song of the Counter-Culture
    Sugarcult - Palm Trees and Power Lines
    The Spill Canvas - Sunsets and Car Crashes
    Midtown - Forget What You Know
    Arcade Fire - Funeral
    Bayside - Sirens & Condolences
    The Dillinger Escape Plan - Miss Machine
    Sum 41 - Chuck
    Converge - You Fail Me
    Sufjan Stevens - Seven Swans
    Senses Fail - Let It Enfold You
     
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  5. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    remainder of the top 20:
    4. Kanye West - The College Dropout (realistically #3 but I didn't want to give him points)
    5. Modest Mouse - Good News for People Who Love Bad News
    6. Arcade Fire - Funeral
    7. Green Day - American Idiot
    8. My Chemical Romance - Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge
    9. Drive-By Truckers - The Dirty South
    10. Engine Down - Engine Down
    11. Beastie Boys - To the 5 Boroughs
    12. Mark Lanegan - Bubblegum
    13. Interpol - Antics
    14. Converge - You Fail Me
    15. Brian WIlson - Smile
    16. Pedro the Lion - Achilles Heel
    17. Jimmy Eat World - Futures
    18. Lamb of God - Ashes of the Wake
    19. The Walkmen - Bows + Arrows
    20. The Killers - Hot Fuss

    honorable mentions:
    alexisonfire - watch out!
    ambulance ltd - lp
    as tall as lions - lafcadio
    autolux - future perfect
    bad religion - the empire strikes first
    the black keys - rubber factory
    brian wilson - smile
    the chariot - everything is alive…
    chevelle - this type of thinking could do us in
    circle takes the square - as the roots undo
    colossal - welcome the problems
    descendents - cool to be you
    the dillinger escape plan - miss machine
    elliott smith - from a basement on the hill
    feist - let it die
    felix culpa - committment
    franz ferdinand - franz ferdinand
    guided by voices - half smiles of the decomposed
    the hives - tyrannosaurus hives
    isis - panopticon
    john frusciante - shadows collide with people
    kasabian - kasabian
    keane - hopes and fears
    kid kilowatt - guitar method
    killswitch engage - the end of heartache
    kings of leon - aha shake heartbreak
    loretta lynn - van lear rose
    mase - welcome back
    mewithoutyou - catch for us the foxes
    neurosis - the eye of every storm
    nick cave and the bad seeds - abattoir blues/the lyre of orpheus
    probot - probot
    R.E.M. - around the sun
    rilo kiley - more adventurous
    rise against - siren song of the counter culture
    slipknot - vol. 3 the subliminal verses
    sonic youth - sonic nurse
    sparta - porcelain
    straylight run - straylight run
    sufjan stevens - seven swans
    taking back sunday - where you want to be
    ted leo and the pharmacists - shake the streets
    these arms are snakes - oxeneers or the lion sleeps when its antelope go home
    tv on the radio - desperate youth, blood thirsty babes
    u2 - how to dismantle an atomic bomb
    usher - confessions
    william basinski - the disintegration loops

    stuff to check out:
    air - talkie walkie
    alanis morissette - so-called chaos
    animal collective - sung tongs
    bjork - medulla
    bonnie prince billy - sings greatest palace music
    ciara - goodies
    courtney love - america’s sweetheart
    deerhoof - milk man
    the hold steady - almost killed me
    iron and wine - our endless numbered days
    john legend - get lifted
    mf doom - mm..food
    norah jones - feels like home
    now its overhead - fall back open
    prince - musicology
    the roots - the tipping point
    stereolab - margarine eclipse
    the streets - a grand don’t come for free
    twista - kamikaze
     
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  6. bedwettingcosmo

    i like bands who can't sing good Supporter

    mewithoutYou - catch for us the foxes
    circle takes the square - as the roots undo
    modest mouse - good news
     
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  7. 1. circle takes the square – as the roots undo
    2. say anything – ...is a real boy
    3. rise against – siren song of the counter culture

    4. jimmy eat world – futures
    5. converge – you fail me
    6. arcade fire – funeral
    7. alexisonfire – watch out!
    8. kanye west – the college dropout
    9. mewithoutYou – catch for us the foxes
    10. modest mouse – good news for people who love bad news
    11. the blood brothers – crimes
    12. senses fail – let it enfold you
    13. taking back sunday – where you want to be
    14. bayside – sirens & condolences
    15. underoath – they're only chasing safety
     
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  8. Surfwax Mar 7, 2022
    (Last edited: Mar 7, 2022)
    Surfwax

    bring on the major leagues

    1. Sufjan Stevens - Seven Swans
    2. Kanye West - The College Dropout
    3. Elliott Smith - From a Basement on the Hill

    Best suf album. Arguably my favorite collection of ES songs if it counts. And as much as Kanye sucks, I can’t avoid that pre-shitty Kanye has 4 or 5 of the best albums of the 2000s.

    honorable mentions: tv on the radio, the Walkmen, Wilco, rilo kiley, tbs, Brian Wilson SMiLE, hot fuss, sung tongs, funeral (begrudgingly)

    good year overall and an enormous transitional year in my overall tastes as I came out of my first Beatles phase (preceded by a healthy dose of pop punk and emo) and dove headfirst into indie
     
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  9. SpyKi

    You must fix your heart Supporter

    1. My Chemical Romance - Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge
    2. Say Anything - ...Is a Real Boy
    3. mewithoutYou - Catch for Us the Foxes

    Another insane year with three of my top 10 of all time. The early 2000's are clearly my formative years.

    Revenge is my favourite album of all time and it's not even that close. It's my favourite piece of art of any kind. I genuinely think it's perfect. I don't think anything will ever even come close to it for me and I'm ok with that.

    I know a lot of people have fallen out of love with Say Anything over the years but I still adore ...Is a Real Boy. It obviously connected with me a lot when I was younger but I still find these songs super well written and fun. There's a level of sincerity throughout that really helps boost the more theatrical and strange moments into something special. If more pop punk sounded like this I'd be a much bigger pop punk fan.

    There's a lot to love about the first mewithoutYou album but they improved so much on Catch for Us the Foxes, adding way more melody and texture to the aggression musically and more singing/spoken word from Aaron creating a really unique sound. What really elevates this to one of my all time favourites is the lyrics which are easily some of the best I've ever heard with certain themes and ideas that have left a lasting impact on me.

    Honourable mentions;

    4. The Used - In Love and Death; Not quite as incredible as their first album but I still think this is a really great record. Filled with super catchy melodies and interesting songwriting. "Sound Effects and Overdramatics" is easily one of their best songs and shows off Bert's incredible scream.

    5. Keane - Hopes and Fears; Gorgeous little piano rock album. The melodies/vocals on this are so damn good, every time I listen to it I want to try and find other stuff that sounds like this but I've yet to find anything that quite hits the same spot.

    6. Kanye West - The College Dropout; Fantastic debut album, great production and interesting song topics. There's a few songs I don't love but most it is some of the best work he ever did.

    7. Relient K - Mmhmm; This is the first album I really love from Relient K, they really made a big step forward with this one with the softer/more serious parts in particular really elevating their sound for me. "When I Go Down" is still one of their best.

    8. McFly - Room on the 3rd Floor; Another hugely nostalgic album for me, I love this band and still find this a super fun listen.

    9. The Killers - Hot Fuss; I've always loved "Mr. Brightside" but never really gave this much of a chance as a whole until recently and it's mostly fantastic. Really love their sound on this and kinda wish they made more music like it. There's a couple of songs I don't care for at all but the rest is ace.

    10. Regina Spektor - Soviet Kitsch; Super fun and creative album, love her songwriting and vocals. "Us" is a clear highlight but the whole thing is constantly interesting.

    11. Jimmy Eat World - Futures; Futures has always been super inconsistant for me, there's four songs I absolutely love and then a bunch that I like but don't get that excited about. Those four songs are super good though.

    12. Underoath - They're Only Chasing Safety; Not quite as good as their next album but after revisiting this last week I still have a lot of fun with these songs. There's some really fun stuff on here.

    13. Stars - Set Yourself on Fire; Sadly peaks on the opener but the rest of the album is pretty good too. Always really loved Amy's voice and the mix of electronics and orchestration backing up the band is lovely.

    14. Hanson - Underneath; Another album that is mostly held up for me by a few songs I really, really love but there's still enough good stuff across the whole album to make it worth a listen. I still wish Taylor sang every song for them though.

    15. Madvillain - Madvillainy; This is probably an album that I respect and appreciate more than I enjoy, not to say I don't enjoy it because I think it's great. I can just see a level of talent in it that I don't think I can fully appreciate but I still love the general concept of the record and most of the songs.
     
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  10. JM95

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    I remember those Usher singles being very ubiquitous.

    Interesting year. I know my favourite album but quite a few other contenders for top three.
     
  11. StreetSpirit

    play the blues, punk Supporter

    1 Max Richter - The Blue Notebooks
    2 Usher - Confessions
    3 Madvillain - Madvillainy

    HMs
    Kelly Clarkson - Breakaway
    The Black Keys - Rubber Factory
    Rise Against - Siren Song of the Counter Culture
    Explosions in the Sky - The Earth Is Not A Cold Dead Place
    Jimmy Eat World - Futures
    Modest Mouse - Good News for People Who Love Bad News

    Soooo many bangers on that Kelly Clarkson record, Behind These Hazel Eyes one of the best solo car karaoke songs out there. Rubber Factory's great for scratching that loud white boy blues itch when it shows up.
     
  12. cyclones_37

    I built this vessel and it could capsize anytime Supporter

    Relient K - mmhmm
    Brandtson - Send Us a Signal
    Further Seems Forever - Hide Nothing

    Jimmy Eat World - Futures
    Arcade Fire - Funeral
    Lovedrug - Pretend You're Alive
    mewithoutYou - Catch For Us the Foxes
    Underoath - They're Only Chasing Safety
    Spill Canvas - Sunsets and Car Crashes
     
  13. OhTheWater

    Let it run Supporter

    Man what a year.
    1. Kanye West - The College Dropout
    2. MF Doom - Mm..Food
    3. Cam'ron - Purple Haze

    Also:
    Madvillain - Madvillainy
    I Can Make a Mess - I Can Make a Mess
    Taking Back Sunday - Where You Want to Be
    Saves the Day - Ups and Downs
    The Blue Nile - High
    Jay Z x Linkin Park - Collision Course
    The Killers - Hot Fuss
    Joanna Newsom - The Milk Eyed Mender
    Kings of Leon - Aha Shake Heartbreak
    Xiu Xiu - Fabulous Muscles
    Animal Collective - Sung Tongs
     
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  14. Gianni

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    Pat, Engine Down is a pretty cool band - I've still gotta hear more of their stuff - but I've noticed them high on your lists lately and had never heard of them, so I bookmarked these albums to listen to. Really like what I've heard - where/when did you first hear them?
     
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  15. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    i had purple haze marked as 2005. damn.

    also if madvillainy loses by a point to jimmy eat world, i will be blaming you
     
  16. OhTheWater

    Let it run Supporter

    I mean, Mm..Food is the better album so I wouldn't be too worked up about it!
     
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  17. phaynes12

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    the singer joined sparta for their third album and a sparta song was on, like, madden 05 or something, so i downloaded all of their stuff and then found out about engine down, a much better band.

    funny that the same singer replaced jim from sparta in the at the drive in reunion as well
     
  18. phaynes12

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    i’ll listen today, i’m just tired of the pop punk bands winning lol
     
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  19. Gianni

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    Oh Keeley Davis! Holy shit lol def knew the Sparta/ATDI side of that story but didn't make the connection.

    Right on thanks!
     
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  20. williek311

    @wearthicksocks Prestigious

    1. Madvillain - Madvillainy
    2. MF Doom - Mm..Food
    3. Cam’ron - Purple Haze
    4. Ghostface Killah - The Pretty Toney Album
    5. MF Doom + MF Grimm - Special Herbs + Spices Volume 1
    6. Victor Vaughn - VV:2
     
  21. AgonizingFir Mar 7, 2022
    (Last edited: Mar 7, 2022)
    AgonizingFir

    Currently Distracted Supporter

    What a year, ranked based on impact and my current relationship with the albums.
    1. The Killers - Hot Fuss
    2. Mewithoutyou - Catch For Us the Foxes
    3. Rise Against - Siren Song…
    ———
    Honorable mentions to:
    Kanye West (back then, fuck the guy now)
    Underoath
    Modest Mouse
    Mastodon
    Arcade Fire
    Senses Fail
    MF DOOM
    Rise Against
    Sufjan
    Alexisonfire
    And the countless others I can’t remember. Staked year for sure.
     
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  22. Anthony Brooks

    brook183 Supporter

    1. Alexisonfire - Watch Out!
    2. Kanye West - The College Dropout
    3. Mastodon - Leviathan
     
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  23. it's called absolute PUNK, pat
     
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  24. JRGComedy

    Trusted Supporter

    This has definitely been the hardest choice so far. This year is where the most foundational albums of my life lie. Some of these are albums I purchased with my own money for the first time, some of them are classics I learned to love later in life, and some of them coast off of 2-3 very good singles.

    1. Jimmy Eat World - Futures
    • Liked but did not love this album when I was a kid. Too many slow, plodding songs that kept me from the real heat like the title track or Pain. Eventually, I grew up and realized the "slower songs" were some of the best the band has offered. Kill and Polaris especially are two all-timers. I'll probably get banned for saying this, but 23 is not nearly as profound or grandiose for me as it seems to be for everyone else. Good tune though.

    2. Green Day - American Idiot

    • My memory is fuzzy, but the first album I bought with my own money was either this or From Under the Cork Tree. We all know how inescapable this album was for several years after release. And the good news is that it mostly holds up! It loses me a little in the back half and always did as a kid as well, but I have fond memories of my friend getting cut off at karaoke about halfway through Jesus of Suburbia. Another quick story: I had a windbreaker jacket with speakers built into the hood and a little FM dial sewed into the arm, so I called THE local radio station and asked them to play Holiday at precisely 10:15 AM, when I'd be outside for recess. They dutifully obliged and I thought I was the coolest kid in the world for those 3 minutes.

    3. Descendents - Cool to Be You

    • This was a tough call. I think this is my favorite Descendents album and it's one I frequently point to as a good example of bands aging their lyrics up as they get older. There are songs on here about divorce, child custody, and just watching TV on the couch with your wife. There's also a fart song, but at least it's catchy? The ultimate aging-incel album, I wouldn't take this as gospel, but I think it's perhaps the purest distillation of the Descendents message.


    VERY Honorable Mentions:

    Bad Religion - The Empire Strikes First
    • This was almost my #3. It was my favorite Bad Religion album for a long time and is still in my top 5 for sure. Brooks Wackerman once again puts on a punk drumming masterclass, but the back half of this shines as the band pushes themselves into unfamiliar territory for 4-5 tracks. It was on this tour they recorded the live DVD at the Palladium as well, which is a great show and possibly one of the last times that Gurewitz actually appeared on stage with the band.

    My Chemical Romance - Three Cheers For Sweet Revenge

    • An excellent album in which the deep cuts were just a touch too abrasive for my young ears at the time. Loved the singles and especially the video for I'm Not Okay, but it took me longer to get into the rest. Album still bangs though.

    Sum 41 - Chuck

    • Pretty handily the best Sum 41 album in my eyes. They finally realize their classic rock/modern rock/modern pop punk hybrid potential and deliver insane riffs and massive choruses.

    Relient K - Mmhmm
    • Man, THIS album. One of RK's best and would be higher in any other year. Some of their best songs on here and it marks the first time they released an entirely consistent album. Keegan from Camp Trash posited on Twitter a few weeks ago that RK was better than Blink and based on the strength of this album, it's probably true (although his Twitter takes are often way too hot for their own good).

    New Found Glory - Catalyst

    • Me and my best friend's first favorite album to listen to together. The highs are incredibly high on this album, as is Jordan's voice, and the band never quite recaptures the energy of this album again in their career.

    Good Charlotte - The Chronicles of Life & Death

    • The most successful "pop-punk band does Alkaline Trio" album, imo. In fact, they might have beaten Alk3 to the punch since Crimson didn't come out until 2005. But this dour and experimental album is weird by most standards and succeeds in myriad ways despite its ambition.

    Bowling For Soup - A Hangover You Don't Deserve

    • This Butch Walker-produced pop punk behemoth is definitely too long and overstuffed, but man do the hits hit. Obvs has two of their biggest hits, but there are several album cuts that are almost as ubiquitous (Come Back to Texas, anybody?)


    The rest:
    Taking Back Sunday - Where You Want to Be
    • Bought this because I liked the singles. I still pretty much only like the singles.

    The Used - In Love and Death
    • Bought this because I liked the singles. I still pretty much only like the singles.

    The Killers - Hot Fuss

    • I am one of those "first half is stronger" people on this album, but what a debut!

    Butch Walker - Letters

    • I know this is a lot of people's Butch gold standard, and it just isn't for me. It's a little too melodramatic for me and I prefer his breezier work a couple years later.

    Slipknot - Vol. 3: The Subliminal Verses

    • Bought this because I liked the singles. I still pretty much only like the singles.

    Say Anything - ...Is a Real Boy

    • As @SpyKi alluded to, I am one of those people who fell off with Say Anything, specifically at I Don't Think It is. I haven't listened to this album in a long time and I have doubts that it holds up, but I played it a lot when I was younger for sure.

    Midtown - Forget What You Know

    • What a depressing album. That is also bold and catchy.

    Sugarcult - Palm Trees and Power Lines

    • Bought this because I liked the singles. I still pretty much only like the singles.

    Chevelle - This Type of Thinking Could Do Us In

    • Bought this because I liked the singles. I still pretty much only like the singles.

    Head Automatica - Decadence

    • BEATING HEARTS BABY (baby is this love for real?)

    Gatsby's American Dream - In the Land of Lost Monsters EP

    • Weird little transitional EP, but I listened to it a lot as an avowed GAD fanboy.

    Cake - Pressure Chief

    • Deceptively good.
     
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  25. OhTheWater

    Let it run Supporter

    Where You Want to Be stands out as very easily TBS's best album, as well as a very good rock album for the year. I return to it a lot, probably the most out of scene albums of the era
     
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